That is a pathetically sad statement. A piece of paper written by men doesn't give you rights. It outlines a governing system that keeps the government from infringing on those rights that were given at birth.
Maybe Americans needs to write another Declaration of Independence to Congress reiterating the notion that our liberties are endowed by our creator, not our legislators.
I think the communist manifesto gives Box his rights.
Cicero. Rights given at birth... no matter where I'm born??? NOPE. Those "GOD GIVEN RIGHTS" are not given everywhere... many are only given in the USA. Did GOD give Americans Rights and the rest of the world... he forgot? The Right to worship as I please is not a God Given Right. Go to many countries and you will have none of your GOD GIVEN RIGHTS... WHY? GOD FORGOT THEM? THE only difference between religious freedom and religious restrictions is the US Constitution.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
"The Camp I am In"??? 1. My camp believes in choice. The FREEDOM to worship any religion I want AND NOT TO BE FORCED TO SUBSIDIZE ANY RELIGION. Freedom of religion is, if you so chose, freedom FROM religion.
Correct and that is a right you were born with not one given to you by a government or man, remember that. However isn't it your camp who wishes to tell people how to run their own property or business, isn't it your camp who believes my money should be redistributed by force, isn't it your camp who continues to pass laws which try to erode the constitution you say you wish to protect. You can't have it both ways, you either believe in true freedom or you don't there is no middle road.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
MY RIGHTS COME FROM THE US CONSTITUTION. With out it, a law can be enacted, by a vote in congress, that says "THE USA IS A CHRISTIAN NATION." The 1st amendment gives me the RIGHT to worship as I please. Don't believe me? Go to a Muslim country and test out YOUR GOD GIVEN RIGHTS. God will let you down... the US Constitution won't. IF a majority Muslim community declares that their city is now Muslim only... Ask God about your rights. God will ignore your lost freedom of religion... the US Constitution won't.
IF the Constitution was burned tomorrow... I would have no right to Bear Arms as guaranteed in the 2nd amendment. Congress could pass a law banning all guns... God won't stop them... but the US Constitution will.
The Constitution is a restraint on government, it told of our natural rights for them to do their job in defending those rights nothing more. It is up to us as a free people to make sure our freedoms are protected from not only foreign threats but from within. At the end of the day the Constitution will not protect you, only those willing to sacrifice everything will.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Cicero. Rights given at birth... no matter where I'm born??? NOPE. Those "GOD GIVEN RIGHTS" are not given everywhere... many are only given in the USA. Did GOD give Americans Rights and the rest of the world... he forgot? The Right to worship as I please is not a God Given Right. Go to many countries and you will have none of your GOD GIVEN RIGHTS... WHY? GOD FORGOT THEM? THE only difference between religious freedom and religious restrictions is the US Constitution.
You are looking at the right of liberty from the wrong perspective. The restriction of liberties of a person born in Iran doesn't mean the person wasn't born with liberties. It means the GOVERNMENT of that country does not have a Constitution protecting those rights of liberty EVERYBODY is born with. The U.S. Constitution is NOT a document GRANTING RIGHTS OF LIBERTY to it's citizens, but rather a document RESTRICTING the power of the government from infringing on those rights.
Ya get it box? The Constitution is not GRANTING RIGHTS, BUT PRESERVING LIBERTY by restricting government.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Kevin. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal"... What a quaint sentiment! All men are created equal... REALLY? When those words were written, the men who wrote those words owned SLAVES.
But don't stop there, read on: "--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed," "Deriving their power from the consent of the governed" not from some witch doctor, or some god or some religion, but from the CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED.
Tell ya what Kevin. If a local law is passed in your town that outlaws your religion... go to a US Court with the "all men are created equal" piece of paper in your hand and you'll lose the case. Go with the US Constitution in your hand and you'll win the case. One has power... the other is a nice phrase.
God has nothing to do with the rights of Americans. Religion has no place in our RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES. The US Constitution is all that separates us from the rest of the world, where Religion IS the Government.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Correct and that is a right you were born with not one given to you by a government or man, remember that.
So what you are saying is that GOD gave Americans Rights and Liberties... the rest of the world... he sorta forgot.
I have a GOD Given Right TO Worship as I Please??? Not in much of the world I don't. In some countries, I will be arrested or even executed for simply practicing a Christian Religion.
Q. Where is my God Given Right then??? A. It's only in the US Constitution.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
So what you are saying is that GOD gave Americans Rights and Liberties... the rest of the world... he sorta forgot.
I have a GOD Given Right TO Worship as I Please??? Not in much of the world I don't. In some countries, I will be arrested or even executed for simply practicing a Christian Religion.
Q. Where is my God Given Right then??? A. It's only in the US Constitution.
You have to blame the government they chose, they're still born with their rights but it is man who oppresses those rights. We had to fight and die to obtain a government that would recognize our natural rights.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
HAHA Paul just won the RLC Straw poll by a good amount, what's even better is hearing the neo-cons booing because they couldn't get the numbers to win, I love it.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
So what you are saying is that GOD gave Americans Rights and Liberties... the rest of the world... he sorta forgot.
No - the creator(That is anything ABOVE mankind) gave EVERYBODY rights and liberties, the creator also gave everybody free will. The U.S. Constitution empowers the government to protects Americans liberties from those who would infringe on those liberties. It also creates a checks and balance to make sure the government doesn't use the power granted by the people to infringe on the people liberties. Much of the rest of the world believes their liberties are granted by government, the ruling class, and Kings and Queens. Much like you Box...
You want me to waste my time on a video owned, funded and sanctioned by the Koch brothers???
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
No - the creator(That is anything ABOVE mankind) gave EVERYBODY rights and liberties, the creator also gave everybody free will. The U.S. Constitution empowers the government to protects Americans liberties from those who would infringe on those liberties. It also creates a checks and balance to make sure the government doesn't use the power granted by the people to infringe on the people liberties. Much of the rest of the world believes their liberties are granted by government, the ruling class, and Kings and Queens. Much like you Box...
Follow your train of thought. Pretend there is no god.
The rest of your post agrees with my view..I COULD HAVE POSTED THE REST OF YOUR POST: The U.S. Constitution empowers the government to protects Americans liberties from those who would infringe on those liberties. It also creates a checks and balance to make sure the government doesn't use the power granted by the people to infringe on the people liberties. Much of the rest of the world believes their liberties are granted by government, the ruling class, and Kings and Queens.
I believe our rights and liberties are guaranteed by the US Constitution.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
HAHA Paul just won the RLC Straw poll by a good amount, what's even better is hearing the neo-cons booing because they couldn't get the numbers to win, I love it.
I didn't know much about the RLC Straw Poll, so I looked into it and found: Organizations affiliated with the various candidates spend money to influence the outcome of the straw poll and thus generate positive headlines for their candidate. This is done by paying for or subsidizing conference tickets and travel to the conference for supporters from around the country.
Paul's mostly-young supporters cheered when the results were announced, while others booed. Paul - whose base of support is passionate, if limited - won the straw poll at the Conservative Political Action Conference earlier this year.
Straw polls are often seen as signs of enthusiasm among the most active members of the party, though detractors are quick to note they are easily manipulated and that the pool of respondents does not necessarily represent the party overall.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Of course that is what they are going to say because Paul won, if Palin or Romney won you know damn well they would have been playing it as if they just won the nomination. Truth is every candidate had a chance to win this poll, only supporters at the RLC were allowed to vote in this poll. Why is it that when Paul wins a online poll people blow it off as being manipulative but then when active supporters take the time to make it to a large conservative gathering like this and win it for him they also blow it off. Seems as if Paul can't win either way with some people. Take CPAC for example, when Romney won a few years ago the media was all over it like wildfire, however Paul won it the last 2 years and then all of a sudden CPAC doesn't matter any more.
This is more proof that the 2 parties are the same, they both want big government and will do their best to fight off any real change that Paul will actually bring.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
You want me to waste my time on a video owned, funded and sanctioned by the Koch brothers???
I'm just trying to help you out Box since you have no idea about where our rights come from, this video explains a bit. They sum it up a little better than I can so maybe you can learn something new today
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
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