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You have not opposed a government program to date.  You support Metroplex, which an unelected body of bureaucrats working on behalf of the state, directing tax money to the businesses of their choosing. You support a taxing district to subsidized a not for profit ambulance provider.  You support the state overriding the results of a direct vote on the Pine Grove fire district expansion because you feel the state has the right to.  You support the unelected RIDA as long as they are appointed by people from the party you belong to.  You support consolidation of public services, which would centralize control into the hands of a smaller group of people making decision for a larger group.  

Based on your positions on issues over your tenure on this forum, everything you support is for the collective good of the state or "community", and you believe this can only be accomplish through the direction of government.  As long as the people controlling the government are from your party and share your philosophy.  


Actually -- you are quite wrong --    I have said a number of times that the DIRECTLY ELECTED  County Legislature should be the board of Metroplex.

I never said that the state should step in to the Pine Grove issue.   I said that there are legal ways that the Pine Grove Fire Commissioners can build the expansion WITHOUT putting it out for a bond vote --- and that they should pursue those legal ways and build the expansion.

I have supported the Rotterdam IDA regardless of which party appointed them -- IDAs are a good thing --- although to be entirely precise ....  I do believe that eventually the municipal IDAs should be consolidated into the County IDA --- no need to have so many duplicative government agencies/bodies.

I support redrawing local government boundaries to better reflect 21st Century needs rather than the needs of 200 years ago when they were first drawn.   I support replacing OBSOLETE 19th century governmental structures with structures designed to be effective and cost efficient in the 21st Century ---    and I have always supported allowing people to have input through voting ---------  I have repeatedly said that County Legislators, City Council members and Town Board members should be elected from single-member districts or wards ....  thus assuring that EVERYONE and EVERY PART of the community is represented.

I have NEVER said solutions can only be found through the government --- IN FACT the opposite is true -- I supported teh private and public sectors WORKING TOGETHER to solve problems --- I have supported volunteerism and donations to mainatin and improve our public parks and recreation system ....   I have been heavily involved in various private charitable organizations that work to solve various problems .. I could go on and on to prove ....

ONCE AGAIN  -- YOU ARE NOT ONLY WRONG BUT THAT YOU ARE A CHRONIC LIAR.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
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What is a Public Authority?

Public authorities are corporate instruments of the State created by the Legislature to further public interests. Public authorities have various levels of autonomy from the State based on the powers, as well as the constraints, built into their legislative mandate. Some public authorities are completely self-supporting and operate entirely outside the budget process, while others rely on State appropriations to fund operations. In addition, most authorities are authorized to issue bonds—without voter approval—to develop and maintain infrastructure, such as roads and schools, or to fund projects for third parties, including hospitals and nursing homes. The debt service for these bonds is usually supported by revenues of the project, such as tolls that are levied by the authority, fees paid by the third party or appropriated payments from the State to repay outstanding debt. The State has also assigned specific revenue streams to an authority as a way for the authority to pay debt service.

Unlike traditional State agencies, many authorities conduct business outside of the typical oversight and accountability requirements for operations including, but not limited to, employment practices, contracts and procurement procedures, and financial reporting. Each public authority is governed by a separate board of directors appointed by elected officials for varying terms of office.

The Public Authorities Accountability Act of 2009 (Chapter 506 of the Laws of 2009) will require many new measures designed to improve the oversight and accountability of New York’s public authorities. New reporting requirements including mission statements, measurement reports and capital projects reporting will provide more information on authority operations. In addition, the State Comptroller is granted discretion to review certain public authority contracts ensuring a higher level of oversight of public authority contracts.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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A new Public Policy Polling survey in Iowa shows
Newt Gingrich 22%,
Ron Paul at 21%
Mitt Romney at 16%.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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A new Rasmussen survey in New Hampshire finds
Mitt Romney33,
Newt Gingrich at 22%,
Ron Paul at 18%,
Jon Huntsman 10%.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Good vid



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Good vid



Great Video.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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For the majority of my life I was one of those people like many who watched the nightly news or watched press conferences and believed everything that was said.

I didn't know any better.

Just imagine any country sending troops here, roaming our streets, bombing our homes..................

We would retaliate.

9/11 was an act of terrorism. We as other countries lost mothers, fathers, children aunts, uncles friends.

When America goes into another country without a declaration of war, without a true reason what does it make us when innocent citizens are killed : (

It is time to take care of America first. Defend our borders, our people, our freedoms and liberties. Get the economy moving in the right direction.
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I'm actually starting to think Paul has a shot, the main stream republican candidates are horrible, and Paul has stayed true to his message. I hope he makes it!!!!
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I'm actually starting to think Paul has a shot, the main stream republican candidates are horrible, and Paul has stayed true to his message. I hope he makes it!!!!


IF you look at the history of GOP candidates over the last year, each has had a surge to the front tier, to be followed
by a crash to the garbage heap.

Perry, Cain, Bachmann, Romney... now Gingrich.  Once the voters look their way and see what is offered, they each
fizzle and crash.
Ron Paul's on his way up, as Gingrich is in his fizzle stage.  A closer look at Paul, and he will join the rest mulling at the
bottom.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Ron Paul gains ground, further stirring Republicans
By Daniel Trotta
AMHERST, New Hampshire | Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:42pm EST

(Reuters) - Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul declared on Wednesday his campaign was "peaking at the right time" as polls show him closing in on the two perceived front-runners.

The libertarian congressman from Texas with a passionate core of followers complained that pundits were dismissing his longshot campaign prematurely and sounded optimistic about catching former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney and former House of Representatives speaker Newt Gingrich.

All three and others are seeking to represent the Republicans and unseat Democratic President Barack Obama next November. The first of a series of Republican nominating contests is set for January 3 in Iowa.

"The momentum is building up and a lot of the candidates so far would come and go. They would shoot to the top and drop back rapidly. Ours has been very steady growth, then in this last week or two there has been a sudden extra growth," Paul told reporters after meeting voters in Amherst, New Hampshire.

Public Policy Polling released a survey on Tuesday showing him one percentage point behind Gingrich for the lead in Iowa........................>>>>...................>>>>...................http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/14/us-usa-campaign-paul-idUSTRE7BD1TN20111214
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Quoted from Box A Rox


Ron Paul's on his way up, as Gingrich is in his fizzle stage.  A closer look at Paul, and he will join the rest mulling at the
bottom.


Paul's support has been pretty consistent in the campaign but has slowly been rising over time, it's not like the flavors of the week with the other candidates jumping to 1st place overnight. Another plus for Paul is that he doesn't come with a lot of baggage, his voting record is almost flawless, he has no skeletons in his closet unlike what we seen with Cain, Gingrich etc. What arguments they did have about him were pretty much all used during the last campaign and quickly debunked. Funny part is what arguments they had against him weren't even about him, instead it was about his supporters



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Paul's support has been pretty consistent in the campaign but has slowly been rising over time, it's not like the flavors of the week with the other candidates jumping to 1st place overnight. Another plus for Paul is that he doesn't come with a lot of baggage, his voting record is almost flawless, he has no skeletons in his closet unlike what we seen with Cain, Gingrich etc. What arguments they did have about him were pretty much all used during the last campaign and quickly debunked. Funny part is what arguments they had against him weren't even about him, instead it was about his supporters

IMO, Paul shines in his own glow mainly because most Americans haven't looked at him or his record.  
Paul has some favorable qualities, but also a few skeletons in his closet... so far, no one's opened any of his closets.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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