Cis have you noticed how Roxy can never address your points with facts? They are simply "BS"...or you are just plain nuts...typical liberal...those darn facts always ruin everything.
Gadfly I was responding to Cicero's post that Obama lied and was a war criminal.
I asked What Lie? and What Crime?
Cicero admitted that he was mistaken about the lie, and offered no war crime.
Hence, the BS remark.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
President-elect Barack Obama wants to renew the U.S. commitment to finding al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, according to his national security advisers.
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"We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al Qaeda. That has to be our biggest national security priority," Obama said during the presidential debate on October 7.
That's what I said ! We shouldn't give two $hits what the rest of the world thinks of our policies.
We should withdraw from the UN and take our majority share of the funding with us... throw those bastards out of that very valuable real estate in NYC.
rule #54----always keep the enemy close
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Gadfly I was responding to Cicero's post that Obama lied and was a war criminal.
I asked What Lie? and What Crime?
Cicero admitted that he was mistaken about the lie, and offered no war crime.
Hence, the BS remark.
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Since Obama didn't lie (Bush did) and you haven't offered even a hint of a war crime (Bush=Torture), you were quite right... You are wasting your time and mine.[/quote=42]
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Obama didn't lie. OK, so there are no more troops in Iraq or Afghanistan, right? And Gitmo is closed, right? And there's no additional taxes for the middle class, right?
I'm stil waiting for a response. Don't run away. Let us know your honest feelings.
OK, so there are no more troops in Iraq or Afghanistan, right? And Gitmo is closed, right? And there's no additional taxes for the middle class, right?
I'm stil waiting for a response. Don't run away. Let us know your honest feelings.
Kevin. You must learn patience Iraq? Obama promised to get combat troops out of Iraq in 16 months. He was delayed by two months but kept that promise.
Afghanistan??? In progress.
Gitmo closed??? Nope! Not yet.
Tax cut for the middle class. YUP!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Kevin. You must learn patience Iraq? Obama promised to get combat troops out of Iraq in 16 months. He was delayed by two months but kept that promise.
Afghanistan??? In progress.
Gitmo closed??? Nope! Not yet.
Tax cut for the middle class. YUP!
Iraq? There's plenty of US troops left there, just because they aren't "Combat" troops doesn't mean they won't be shot at and/or killed.
Afghanistan? not even close.... there will be probably be a US troop presence there until near the end of this decade if not longer.
Gitmo? Funny, how the talk of closing down Gitmo has become almost non-existent
Middle class tax cuts? Oh you mean the extension of bush tax cuts? And the 2% reduction in the SS tax that makes the system go broke faster than it already is scheduled to..
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
Iraq? There's plenty of US troops left there, just because they aren't "Combat" troops doesn't mean they won't be shot at and/or killed.
Afghanistan? not even close.... there will be probably be a US troop presence there until near the end of this decade if not longer.
Gitmo? Funny, how the talk of closing down Gitmo has become almost non-existent
Middle class tax cuts? Oh you mean the extension of bush tax cuts? And the 2% reduction in the SS tax that makes the system go broke faster than it already is scheduled to..
So you admit that Obama kept his promise in Iraq... His promise to get combat troops out of George Worst Bush's Iraq war... Maybe that doesn't matter to you, because you aren't one of those combat troops who were in Iraq. Iraq Coalition Military Fatalities By Year Year US UK Other Total 2003 486 53 41 580 <Bush 2004 849 22 35 906 <Bush 2005 846 23 28 897 <Bush 2006 822 29 21 872 <Bush 2007 904 47 10 961 <Bush 2008 314 4 4 322 <Bush 2009 149 1 0 150 <Obama took office 2010 60 0 0 60 <Combat troops start pull out 2011 11 0 0 11 <Combat troops out of Iraq Total 4441 179 139 4759
The reduction of US killed in Iraq... A minor point to you, but a major issue for those US Troops who didn't die in Bush's Oil War.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The reduction of US killed in Iraq... A minor point to you, but a major issue for those US Troops who didn't die in Bush's Oil War.
How many contracted security forces have been killed? It doesn't matter in the word game. Reduction of U.S. Military and replaced with Blackwater contracted security takes U.S. Troops and casualties off of the balance sheets, and nobody will know any different.
The reduction of US killed in Iraq... A minor point to you, but a major issue for those US Troops who didn't die in Bush's Oil War.
It matters to me, you a$$wipe. It matters to me that ALL troops are out of Iraq ASAP. It also matters to me that ALL troops are out of Afghanistan ASAP. The Oil war thing is such BS... Where are all the oil profits?
You make the false assumption that I support either one of these wars. All I wanted after 9/11 was for us to bomb the Taliban into the stone age.. that's it.
Your Messiah is a huge disappointment to me, particularly on the leadership side. A democrat WAS going to be elected in 2008, the only problem is, the DNC picked the wrong one.
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
It matters to me, you a$$wipe. It matters to me that ALL troops are out of Iraq ASAP. It also matters to me that ALL troops are out of Afghanistan ASAP. The Oil war thing is such BS... Where are all the oil profits?
"a$$wipe"? LMAO "a$$wipe"??? (Tbird seems to be one of those people who can't respond to a post with out insulting the poster. One of his many character flaws no doubt.)
" It matters to me that ALL troops are out of Iraq ASAP. It also matters to me that ALL troops are out of Afghanistan ASAP." You should take this up with Cicero and MT who still support the... Um... The A$$Wipe who put US Troops in Iraq & Afghanistan in the first place.
As for the Oil War BS??? GWB is a failure at most things... he failed at his Oil War also. NO oil, No Democracy, NO Democratically elected Iraqi Govt... Bush is a total failure.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
How sad that other people in mud huts hate us for being us.
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
Historically, wars have been fought for land, money and resources aka power! Only in about the last...oh....50 years has oil been in the forefront. But that also falls in line with resources. There have been wars over water, fertile land, territory, military positioning etc.....so what makes any of the last THREE any different? They are not!!!
Can anyone imagine what would happen in this country if they just recently discovered gold in them there hills in the west? Hell our own people were fighting and killing each other during the gold rush!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Kevin. You must learn patience Iraq? Obama promised to get combat troops out of Iraq in 16 months. He was delayed by two months but kept that promise.
Afghanistan??? In progress.
Gitmo closed??? Nope! Not yet.
Tax cut for the middle class. YUP!
what was your tax cut???? was it on cheese or something?? because we didn't change an F'EN thing except to increase our withholdings AND WE STILL F'EN OWE.....I even went to an accountant......it's a JOKE.....AN F'EN STUPID MACHINE THAT WE ALL SIT AROUND CALLING BAAAAA....BAAAAAAA.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
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