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Then a death toll comparison PLEASE!


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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... but one group gets a pass as just a bunch of good ole boys havin fun, while law abiding Muslim Americans are being demonized and attacked not because of terrorists ties, but because of their Religion.


If there was a global trend of Italians chanting the Rosary before blowing themselves up in Protestant churches, I wouldn't waste my time and resources in Utah questioning Mormons.


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If there was a global trend of Italians chanting the Rosary before blowing themselves up in Protestant churches, I wouldn't waste my time and resources in Utah questioning Mormons.



People are afraid of different things for different reason .   This congressman is black and he lives in a state where you can probably find  KKK meeting in a cornfield every Saturday night during the summer-


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Then a death toll comparison PLEASE!


That would be difficult to come up with GB, since the KKK killings took place long before the computer age... but my guess would be in the several thousand.

As to number of attacks, domestic terror inside the USA far outpaces Foreign terror here.
~The Weathermen
~The Black Panthers
~The Jewish Defense League( between 1980 and 1985, the JDL attempted 15 terrorist attacks inside the U.S.)
~The Symbionese Liberation Army
~Army of God
~Black Liberation Army (murders of 13 police officers & over 60 acts of violence.
~The Centennial Olympic Park bombing (Eric Rudolph)
~The Unabomber attacks
~Bath School bombings

As well as the 22 or so I listed in a previous post.



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Sh!t Box, you might as well list Peal Harbor and John Wilkes Booth as examples of Terrorist acts.   


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Sh!t Box, you might as well list Peal Harbor and John Wilkes Booth as examples of Terrorist acts.   


Pearl harbor was an act of war... Booth an assassination.

Maybe you consider the Oklahoma City Bombing minor... would it have qualified if Mc Veigh had been better at killing and managed to kill a few thousand people instead of a few hundred?


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Pearl harbor was an act of war... Booth an assassination.

Maybe you consider the Oklahoma City Bombing minor... would it have qualified if Mc Veigh had been better at killing and managed to kill a few thousand people instead of a few hundred?


...And 9-11 was???  An act of war by people of the same ideology bound by a common religion - Islam.  

Though I don't agree with Mahr on much, his articulation about the difference between home grown nationalist nuts and Muslim extremist is dead on.  Muslim extremist want to DESTROY America and the west.  The Muslim extremist aren't liberal or conservative or moderate.  They don't have a political agenda like overturning Roe V Wade, or gun rights.  They aren't marching and protesting for gay marriage or green energy.  The Muslim extremist want America the nation to be non-existent - annihilated - gone.  

To equate Muslim extremism with American issue/policy based extremist is juvenile and naive.


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OK, then go back to the date of the OK city bombings to you spot some to the SPLC. Start there and give us death tolls and just do it for OUR SOIL of course, we don't need to include the 20 or so other nations that have been impacted by the world wide terror network of militant Islam. I am trying to be fair and give you the drop on this' Please Box, some death toll comparisons...


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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...And 9-11 was???  An act of war by people of the same ideology bound by a common religion - Islam.  

When a Catholic IRA member blew up some British soldiers in an Irish Pub, ...wait!!!  They were ALL CATHOLIC!  The entire IRA was Catholic!!!
How did you put it???   "An act of war by people of the same ideology bound by a common religion" YEA That's it!

So we should round up all the Catholics... not just in Ireland or England, but their supporters in America and around the world.
DUHHHH!
Catching a few Terrorists (Catholic or Muslim) by blaming a religion of millions is ridiculous, and we all know it.

Just think how far ahead we'd be if we chased TERRORISTS instead of chasing Muslims!



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Can we get death toll comparisons starting in the year of the OK City bombing to now, Box?

PLEASE? This might bolster your case.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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When a Catholic IRA member blew up some British soldiers in an Irish Pub, ...wait!!!  They were ALL CATHOLIC!  


Irish Republic Army wasn't Catholic.  I think we over this before.  You can't argue with a person with such a poor understanding of history, then goes ahead and makes it up.


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Can we get death toll comparisons starting in the year of the OK City bombing to now, Box?

PLEASE? This might bolster your case.


The death toll will address how successful the attackers were in killing Americans... not how likely they will be to attack or even succeed again.

By my figuring, the number of what you would call Muslim Terrorists, have been very small with very few casualties inside the USA since Sept 11. (Partly due to Muslim American cooperation)

By your way of thinking, if the Sept 11th attackers missed the twin towers and instead crashed in the Hudson river, you would assess their threat as low, because the body count was low.

IMO, the USA has been very successful at stopping Foreign attack on our soil since Sept 11.  Meanwhile the number of attacks by Domestic Terrorists have increased.

I would assume that the numbers of killed from Foreign attack are larger but the number of attacks by Domestic terrorists are also much larger.  As Domestic terrorists get better at their craft, their death toll will also increase.

When Sept 11th attacks occurred, the USA was wide open to attack with almost no security at airports, and little surveillance of possible terrorists inside our country.  Homeland security has helped keep any major attack on our soil since that time... lessening the threat of a similar event, but done little to prevent Domestic terrorism.


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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Irish Republic Army wasn't Catholic.  






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