Congressman Al Green, Texas Democrat, found himself in a heated debate with Republican members on the Homeland Security Committee on Thursday over whether or not the Ku Klux Klan should be considered a terrorist organization. Rep. Peter King, New York Republican and chairman of the committee said, "There is no equivalency of threat between al Qaeda and Neo-Nazis, environmental extremists, and other isolated madmen." Peter King continued, "Indeed, by the Justice Department’s own record, not one terror-related case in the last two years involved neo-Nazis, environmental extremists, or anti-war groups."
Congressman Dan Lungren, California Republican, followed up on the issue saying: "I would say to those who criticize us for a singular focus here that I have been on panels that have investigated the continuing presence of Nazi war criminals in the United States," Lungren explained. "I've been there where we've examined the Ku Klux Klan...and skinhead groups and militias."
Yes, the evil KKK. I see them planting bombs everywhere, thinking globally too. Very scary. Each time I go down south I see them everywhere and they try to lynch me for being Catholic. A terrible threat, especially since they are white.
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
For GB, terrorists have to be Muslim to qualify... For the rest of America, we recognize that Domestic terror is just as dangerous as foreign terror Here's just a few cases of the NON MUSLIM/White Supremest terror in America in recent years:
- July 2008: A gunman named Jim David Adkisson, agitated at how "liberals" are "destroying America," walks into a Unitarian Church and opens fire, killing two churchgoers and wounding four others.
-- October 2008: Two neo-Nazis are arrested in Tennessee in a plot to murder dozens of African-Americans, culminating in the assassination of President Obama.
-- December 2008: A pair of "Patriot" movement radicals -- the father-son team of Bruce and Joshua Turnidge, who wanted "to attack the political infrastructure" -- threaten a bank in Woodburn, Oregon, with a bomb in the hopes of extorting money that would end their financial difficulties, for which they blamed the government. Instead, the bomb goes off and kills two police officers. The men eventually are convicted and sentenced to death for the crime.
-- December 2008: In Belfast, Maine, police discover the makings of a nuclear "dirty bomb" in the basement of a white supremacist shot dead by his wife. The man, who was independently wealthy, reportedly was agitated about the election of President Obama and was crafting a plan to set off the bomb.
-- January 2009: A white supremacist named Keith Luke embarks on a killing rampage in Brockton, Mass., raping and wounding a black woman and killing her sister, then killing a homeless man before being captured by police as he is en route to a Jewish community center.
-- February 2009: A Marine named Kody Brittingham is arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate President Obama. Brittingham also collected white-supremacist material.
-- February 2009: A 60-year-old former Republican Party campaign volunteer opens fire on a gathering of Chilena exchange students in an apartment complex in Miramar Beach, Fla., after telling a neighbor he wanted to start a "revolution" against Latino immigrants.
-- April 2009: A white supremacist named Richard Poplawski opens fire on three Pittsburgh police officers who come to his house on a domestic-violence call and kills all three, because he believed President Obama intended to take away the guns of white citizens like himself. Poplawski is currently awaiting trial.
-- April 2009: Another gunman in Okaloosa County, Florida, similarly fearful of Obama's purported gun-grabbing plans, kills two deputies when they come to arrest him in a domestic-violence matter, then is killed himself in a shootout with police.
-- May 2009: A "sovereign citizen" named Scott Roeder walks into a church in Wichita, Kansas, and assassinates abortion provider Dr. George Tiller.
-- June 2009: A Holocaust denier and right-wing tax protester named James Von Brunn opens fire at the Holocaust Museum, killing a security guard.
-- February 2010: An angry tax protester named Joseph Ray Stack flies an airplane into the building housing IRS offices in Austin, Texas. (Media are reluctant to label this one "domestic terrorism" too.)
-- March 2010: Seven militiamen from the Hutaree Militia in Michigan and Ohio are arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate local police officers with the intent of sparking a new civil war.
-- March 2010: An anti-government extremist named John Patrick Bedell walks into the Pentagon and opens fire, wounding two officers before he is himself shot dead.
-- May 2010: A "sovereign citizen" from Georgia is arrested in Tennessee and charged with plotting the violent takeover of a local county courthouse.
-- May 2010: A still-unidentified white man walks into a Jacksonville, Fla., mosque and sets it afire, simultaneously setting off a pipe bomb.
-- May 2010: Two "sovereign citizens" named Jerry and Joe Kane gun down two police officers who pull them over for a traffic violation, and then wound two more officers in a shootout in which both of them are eventually killed.
-- July 2010: An agitated right-winger and convict named Byron Williams loads up on weapons and drives to the Bay Area intent on attacking the offices of the Tides Foundation and the ACLU, but is intercepted by state patrolmen and engages them in a shootout and armed standoff in which two officers and Williams are wounded.
-- September 2010: A Concord, N.C., man is arrested and charged with plotting to blow up a North Carolina abortion clinic. The man, 26-year--old Justin Carl Moose, referred to himself as the "Christian counterpart to (Osama) bin Laden” in a taped undercover meeting with a federal informant.
-- January 2011: A 22-year-old gunman named Jared Lee Loughner with a long grudge against Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and a paranoid hatred of the government walks into a public Giffords event and shoots her in the head, then keeps firing, killing six people and wounding 14 more. Gifford miraculously survives.
-- January 2011: A backpack bomb with the potential of killing or injuring dozens of people is found along the route of a Martin Luther King Day “unity march” in downtown Spokane.
-- January 31, 2011: An Army veteran from California with a previous arrest record for making threats against President Bush is arrested for making terrorist outside a mosque in Michigan inside a car whose trunk was filled with Class C explosives.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
ANYONE who doesn't like you is a threat....but that would mean we are all a threat to politicians....how stupid....there is always someone who doesn't like what you do or say.....that is why RELIGION should be that F'EN personal....put the jihad/crusade on yourself.....kind of like a hex.....
keep religion OUT of the government's hands......the only thing the government has to do is convict when someone's hands touch another person when uninvited....I'd say an electric chair would work for that......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
Yeah, really! You really made us feel like we shouldn't worry abt those muzzie pukes! I am sure the families of the Fort Hood victims agree with you too. Dangerous KKKers!
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
Not to say they aren't dangerous but I can name some gangs in LA alone which should be way up on the list before them.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Henry, The KKK of past still exists but is being surpassed by other White Supremest groups. It's the KKK in a new costume, and they are just as deadly.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Al Queda is to cancer, as the KKK is to Polio. The number 1 killer in the world versus a practically eradicated disease. Yet everything is relative in the world of the politically correct.
Al Queda is to cancer, as the KKK is to Polio. The number 1 killer in the world versus a practically eradicated disease. Yet everything is relative in the world of the politically correct.
CHA-CHING!!!!
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Henry, The KKK of past still exists but is being surpassed by other White Supremest groups. It's the KKK in a new costume, and they are just as deadly.
Him bringing up the KKK is a joke and just propaganda, compared to the other threats out there they are way down the list. Why didn't he bring up MS-13 or the cartels which in past decades have been 100X more deadly and has terrorized whole communities in recent years.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Above I listed 22 incidents of Domestic Terrorism. You can find one more today when 5 Right Wing Militiamen in Alaska attempted to kidnap and kill Alaska state troopers and a Judge. These terrorists names are :Francis "Schaeffer" Cox, Lonnie Vernon, Karen Vernon, Coleman Barney and Michael Anderson. Not exactly your average Muslim Terrorist names are they???
These Wing Nut militiamen and their White Supremest brethren are TERRORISTS. Because they are White and Christian, they get a pass on this board. Meanwhile, Patriotic law abiding non violent American Muslims are being harassed and condemned as terrorists.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
we should NOT be taking up the religious war sword......THAT is bad policy.....get the troops home unless there is a MILITARY war to fight.....how many troops all over the globe and not one declaration of war......what a JOKE......
let me see, should I give you a hershey bar with a Disney movie? Or should I just hand you this grenade?
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Above I listed 22 incidents of Domestic Terrorism. You can find one more today when 5 Right Wing Militiamen in Alaska attempted to kidnap and kill Alaska state troopers and a Judge. These terrorists names are :Francis "Schaeffer" Cox, Lonnie Vernon, Karen Vernon, Coleman Barney and Michael Anderson. Not exactly your average Muslim Terrorist names are they???
These Wing Nut militiamen and their White Supremest brethren are TERRORISTS. Because they are White and Christian, they get a pass on this board. Meanwhile, Patriotic law abiding non violent American Muslims are being harassed and condemned as terrorists.
Those people were not a Militia they are a anti-government group. Militias understand the importance of government for what roles they should serve, they might be against bad government but not the government in which our constitution limits their power. Sounds like you swallowed the crap that came out of the Clinton Administration when it comes to Militias. Also nobody is giving anyone a free pass here because of race or religion, we are simply pointing out the main threat to this country and that is radical Islamists.
If you want to turn this thread into a post every threat to this country then we will probably agree on many of them.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."