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Re: the pool at Mohon.  The Meyers School in Albany, one of the newest built schools, has a pool.  They now have a senior night that your former Senior director lobbyed for with the district and the mayor.Took her some time, but she got buy-in from the politicos in Albany especially the Republican ones who are few and far between.  That was announced before Christmas. Tell somebody in Rotterdam to get on it.  Should be a lot easier to pull off in Rotterdam than Albany.


The Parks and Recreation Commission is attempting to work with the school districts and ALL of the various sports leagues and groups within town to make the best possible use of our existing facilities.  

As for being easier or harder to pull off -- mmm -- the jury is still out.  Let's just say that progress has been made but there are still obstacles to overcome.   It didn't help that certain folks in town hall tried to politicize the commission.  


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the parks commission,,,important as it is....is fluff after the stuff is done....it's like eating dinner before having dessert


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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the parks commission,,,important as it is....is fluff after the stuff is done....it's like eating dinner before having dessert


Actually, we are working on some very important projects --  and  BTW --- quality of life is not "fluff"


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Actually, we are working on some very important projects --  and  BTW --- quality of life is not "fluff"


would you build a home on a sand foundation? or do you like a nice strong foundation? I really dont care which you prefer...quality of life
is of course important but it GROWS out of well fertilized soil that we are lacking.....

I work in a nursing home and quality of life depends GREATLY on how happy your staff is as to that effect....right now our town staff is
happy but our quality of life is going down because WE CANT AFFORD THE ENTITLEMENTS......GOT IT!!!!!! and the freakin' leaf bags
aren't quality.....holy crap!!! how shortsighted can we be.....a senior have fun retire at the expense of the taxpayers,center......
holy crap!!!!

I dont know who takes care of you but your grip has slipped


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The Parks and Recreation Commission is attempting to work with the school districts and ALL of the various sports leagues and groups within town to make the best possible use of our existing facilities.  

As for being easier or harder to pull off -- mmm -- the jury is still out.  Let's just say that progress has been made but there are still obstacles to overcome.   It didn't help that certain folks in town hall tried to politicize the commission.  


Parks and recreation is working along with the school districts? Does this mean that the Rotterdam Little League will be moving to one of the high school / middle school campuses, since the new park has not yet even had the ground broken yet? When is this project supposed to start? Has the County Government spent our money on buying the land yet?  Or was this just something they were using at another time to get a few votes?


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would you build a home on a sand foundation? or do you like a nice strong foundation? I really dont care which you prefer...quality of life
is of course important but it GROWS out of well fertilized soil that we are lacking.....

I work in a nursing home and quality of life depends GREATLY on how happy your staff is as to that effect....right now our town staff is
happy but our quality of life is going down because WE CANT AFFORD THE ENTITLEMENTS......GOT IT!!!!!! and the freakin' leaf bags
aren't quality.....holy crap!!! how shortsighted can we be.....a senior have fun retire at the expense of the taxpayers,center......
holy crap!!!!  
I dont know who takes care of you but your grip has slipped


First - you don't even know my position on the leaf bags -- and that is irrelevant to the issue.

Second - residents were surveyed in 2009 and almost 80% said that they wanted a multi-generational community center  and were willing to pay more in taxes for it -----  

Third -  the as-yet not fully developed proposal would MOST LIKELY not cost the property tax payers a penny  and would allow  2 now tax-exempt properties to be sold and put back on the property tax rolls.

So ---   all I am asking is -- don't attack a proposal that hasn't even been formally made and of which you don't even know anything about   .. primarily because it is way too early in the process to even discuss specifics or generalities.


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Parks and recreation is working along with the school districts? Does this mean that the Rotterdam Little League will be moving to one of the high school / middle school campuses, since the new park has not yet even had the ground broken yet? When is this project supposed to start? Has the County Government spent our money on buying the land yet?  Or was this just something they were using at another time to get a few votes?


My understanding is that groundbreaking will be sometime this year  ...  there was a delay because an agreement had to be reached with the bird club (an adjoining property)  on some matter.

The Rotterdam Little League has not asked the Parks and Recreation Commission for any assistance in planning or raising funds for the facility.    Technically, the land is owned by the county -- so it is out of our jurisdiction.   If the county turns it over to the town as park land -- then it would be in our jurisdiction.


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propose all you want...I'm sure it's pretty and I'm sure it feels just right goldilocks.......and I'm sure it would be a crowning jewel after we pull up our
bootstraps and make a comp plan with utility/patina/class and rearrange some things we have now....especially contracts and the senior center....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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propose all you want...I'm sure it's pretty and I'm sure it feels just right goldilocks.......and I'm sure it would be a crowning jewel after we pull up our
bootstraps and make a comp plan with utility/patina/class and rearrange some things we have now....especially contracts and the senior center....


Actually, the Town Parks Plan proposal .. which includes a general proposal to build a multi-generational community center - would become part of the comprehensive plan if approved by the Town Board.    

Having a good comp plan is necessary to move forward in a number of areas -- not just with parks and recreation.    The lack of action on part or all of the comp plan --- is another example of how the supervisor and deputy supervisor have failed ....... they WASTE more time creating  new "fires" and haven't addressed the pre-existing "fires" such as the lack of a comp plan.


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Actually, the Town Parks Plan proposal .. which includes a general proposal to build a multi-generational community center - would become part of the comprehensive plan if approved by the Town Board.    

Having a good comp plan is necessary to move forward in a number of areas -- not just with parks and recreation.    The lack of action on part or all of the comp plan --- is another example of how the supervisor and deputy supervisor have failed ....... they WASTE more time creating  new "fires" and haven't addressed the pre-existing "fires" such as the lack of a comp plan.


the community center is the end....the goal....AFTER our work is finished....I have to tell ya....Altamont Ave is just disgusting and with 7banks all in a row...WTF....really....step back and look....how F'EN cheesy is that....sure..it's nice and convenient for those on the other side of Schalmont but without class/planning....shame shame shame....as for the hannaford plaza...dirty rotten shame.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Rotterdam Senior Citizens’ Center
2639 Hamburg Street
Rotterdam, New York 12303
(51 356-1561

Open Monday through Friday 8:00 a.m. - 4:00 p.m.

Our doors are open to all persons 55 years of age and older with Rotterdam residents receiving first preference. There is no membership fee to our seniors to take advantage of our wide range of classes, many discounted bus trips throughout the year, or utilizing our building.

The Rotterdam Senior Citizens’ Center has been at its present location since 1975. There are many activities for our seniors to enjoy and a lot goes on everyday from craft classes to bingo. Our goal here is to get seniors out of their homes and involved. Many services offered are free to seniors to help save them time and money.

In addition to the many activities offered, we also have a library with books and magazines that seniors exchange. Wheelchairs and walkers are available for people to borrow in times of need.

We are always searching for new things to bring to Seniors. If you have any suggestions, please let us know.

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Summer Concert Schedule
The Town of Rotterdam this summer, through our Parks and Recreation Department and in conjunction with the Schenectady Musical Union Community Performance and Scholarship Fund, will be sponsoring a series of nine professional band concerts and two Town resident band concerts. Read more..

This Week's Calendar
   Senior Center Activities for Wednesday
   2/23/2011 | 8:00AM - 4:00PM
   Advanced Osteo Exercise 10:00AM
Ceramic Class 9:30AM
Tole Painting 10:00AM
Aerobic Dance 10:00AM
No Blood Pressure Clinic AToday
Tap Dance 11:00AM
Beginning and Intermediate Osteo 11:00AM
Bingo 1:00PM
Billiards 1:00-4:00PM


   Senior Center Activities for Thursday
   2/24/2011 | 8:00AM - 4:00PM
   Billiards 9:00-12:00 & 1:00-4:00PM
Beginning Italian Class 9:00AM
Capital District Child Care Council 9:00AM-12:00PM Library
Crafts 9:30AM
Aerobic Dance 10:00AM
Intermediate Italian Class 10:00AM
Advanced Italian Class 11:00AM
Exercise Class 11:00AM
Quilters 1:00PM



   Senior Center Activities for Friday
   2/25/2011 | 8:00AM - 4:00PM
   Sign Up for the Log Cabin Trip 8:30AM
Advanced Osteo Exercise 10:00AM
Beginning & Intermediate Osteo 11:00AM
Billiards 1:00-4:00PM


   Senior Center Activities for Monday
   2/28/2011 | 8:00AM - 4:00PM
   Alternative Healing 10:00AM
Jolly Doers 10:00AM
MVP Seminar 10:00AM Library
Painting 10:30-12:00 & 1:00-3:00PM
Bingp 1:00PM
Billiards 1:00-4:00PM


   Senior Center Activities for Tuesday
   3/1/2011 | 8:00AM - 4:00PM
   Billiards 9:00-12:00 and 1:00-4:00PM
Aerobic Class 8:45 AM
Blue Shield Seminar 10:00AM Library
Exercise Class 10:00AM
Sewing Class 10:00AM
Brain Aerobics 10:00AM


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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the senior centers used to be exclusively for the aged women because they didn't want to hang around the men's clubs/bars.......guess what....
new generation.....55-75 they are out and about,,,no thought of senior center....oh, they'll say it's a great idea for one....BECAUSE THEY DONT
THINK THEY ARE ONE NOR WOULD THEY CONSIDER GOING......close it already


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My understanding is that groundbreaking will be sometime this year  ...  there was a delay because an agreement had to be reached with the bird club (an adjoining property)  on some matter.

The Rotterdam Little League has not asked the Parks and Recreation Commission for any assistance in planning or raising funds for the facility.    Technically, the land is owned by the county -- so it is out of our jurisdiction.   If the county turns it over to the town as park land -- then it would be in our jurisdiction.


It's a park that will supposedly be built, and it is within the borders of the Town of Rotterdam.  How would that be out of your jurisdiction?  Maybe the head of the Parks and Recreation Commission shouldn't wait for the Rotterdam Little League to reach out to them, but maybe the Commissioner should be the one reaching out, after all, realizing that it is a park in the town, which is your passion, unless it isn't really.  What difference does the ownership make?  And to that fact, if working together works, then why isn't the Parks and Recreation Committee reaching out to the leaders at the county level to make sure this is moving in the appropriate direction?


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It's a park that will supposedly be built, and it is within the borders of the Town of Rotterdam.  How would that be out of your jurisdiction?  Maybe the head of the Parks and Recreation Commission shouldn't wait for the Rotterdam Little League to reach out to them, but maybe the Commissioner should be the one reaching out, after all, realizing that it is a park in the town, which is your passion, unless it isn't really.  What difference does the ownership make?  And to that fact, if working together works, then why isn't the Parks and Recreation Committee reaching out to the leaders at the county level to make sure this is moving in the appropriate direction?


they will let it roll around for the voters to watch and become mezmerized by the podium puck.....


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It's a park that will supposedly be built, and it is within the borders of the Town of Rotterdam.  How would that be out of your jurisdiction?  Maybe the head of the Parks and Recreation Commission shouldn't wait for the Rotterdam Little League to reach out to them, but maybe the Commissioner should be the one reaching out, after all, realizing that it is a park in the town, which is your passion, unless it isn't really.  What difference does the ownership make?  And to that fact, if working together works, then why isn't the Parks and Recreation Committee reaching out to the leaders at the county level to make sure this is moving in the appropriate direction?


At this time, the land is owned by the county -- and therefore is not a town park.  It is my understanding that, eventually, that situation may change but until it does .. the commission doesn't have any jurisdiction over the land or the planning of the facility.

As for your derogatory comments about reaching out to the Little League - we have reached out to the Little League  .. they had a representative to the commission until early last year .. we are attempting to get them to send a representative again.   Both the commission as a whole and myself, individually, are more than ready and willing to help out in anyway.   We await the arrival of their representative at our meetings to further discuss the matter.

I have reached out to the county reps and leaders and we have a good working relationship. We have good working relationships with our member of Congress and our members of the US Senate  who have expressed an interest in our proposals and are working with us.

It is my understanding that it is moving in the "appropriate direction"  and so really -- there isn't a problem.


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