who are they kidding??? really?? really??? I'm not stupid and I am ignorant of alot of things....but one thing is that BOTH PARTIES 'pack heat'.... unions and politicos(and it doesn't matter which party)......
I dont feel one bit sorry for the union workers----THEY PUT THEMSELVES ON THAT LINE......if they step aside the rest of use will see the politicos for what they are......there's too much smoke and NO TRUTH.........
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Republicans hold off Dems in recalls, win enough seats to keep majority in Senate
After tens of millions of dollars spent by outside interest groups, dozens of attack ads and exhaustive get-out-the-vote efforts, Democrats on Tuesday fell short of their goal of taking control of the state Senate and stopping the agenda of Gov. Scott Walker.
Republicans won four of six recall races, meaning the party still holds a narrow 17-16 majority in the Senate — at least until next week, when Sens. Robert Wirch, D-Pleasant Prairie, and Jim Holperin, D-Conover face their own recall elections. A third Democrat, Sen. Dave Hansen, D-Green Bay, easily survived a recall attempt last month.
Democrats pick up 2 Republican seats... the first time a Wisconsin recall has been successful in the 85 years of it's existence.
The success of these two Democrats shows that it can be done. Something on the mind of the unpopular governor Walker who becomes eligible for recall in January.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Nice try Box. It was another DEM/Obama flop. The REPS still hold the Senate majority despite millions dumped in attack ads by unions and DEM front groups making false charges. The Wisconsin voters have had enough of high taxes and deficit spending. In NYS the morons still "understand the importance of high taxes".
Nice try Box. It was another DEM/Obama flop. The REPS still hold the Senate majority despite millions dumped in attack ads by unions and DEM front groups making false charges. The Wisconsin voters have had enough of high taxes and deficit spending. In NYS the morons still "understand the importance of high taxes".
Two Republicans LOST the recall vote. The Republican Majority in Wisconsin is now only one vote. A pick up of two Republican seats by the Democrats is a success. This fight isn't over, it's just beginning.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
YES, THEY MAY STILL BE ABLE TO TURN WIS. INTO NEW YORK YET!!!
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
YES, THEY MAY STILL BE ABLE TO TURN WIS. INTO NEW YORK YET!!!
No Graham, I don't think they will. Both Walker of Wisconsin and Cuomo of NY are newly elected governors. Both set out to solve the economic problems of their state. Both knew that state workers contracts were part of the problem...
In Wisconsin their failed governor attacked unions. Faced recall votes. Is the most unpopular governor in Wisconsin history... Had protests shut down his state government and will possibly face a recall vote in January. He's a Republican.
In NY, our newly elected governor faced similar economic problems and negotiated a settlement with public employees that helped the state's economic situation, and treated the public employees fairly. Cuomo is now the most popular governor in the country. His approval ratings in NY are through the roof, and even well supported by a majority of Republicans.
The voters of Wisconsin can see the disaster that they elected, and only need to glance to NY to see what is possible. Wisconsin failure, or NY success. It's up to the people of Wisconsin.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
No Graham, I don't think they will. Both Walker of Wisconsin and Cuomo of NY are newly elected governors. Both set out to solve the economic problems of their state. Both knew that state workers contracts were part of the problem...
In Wisconsin their failed governor attacked unions. Faced recall votes. Is the most unpopular governor in Wisconsin history... Had protests shut down his state government and will possibly face a recall vote in January. He's a Republican.
In NY, our newly elected governor faced similar economic problems and negotiated a settlement with public employees that helped the state's economic situation, and treated the public employees fairly. Cuomo is now the most popular governor in the country. His approval ratings in NY are through the roof, and even well supported by a majority of Republicans.
The voters of Wisconsin can see the disaster that they elected, and only need to glance to NY to see what is possible. Wisconsin failure, or NY success. It's up to the people of Wisconsin.
The both had similar goals , but with different approaches. Walker's theory was to cut the head off the snake, Cuomo's theory was threatening to starve it to death... Make no mistake, Cuomo would have laid off as many as necessary to meet his budget goals. The Unions knew he wasn't bluffing and played ball. Walker should have followed this same path in Wisconsin. I don't think you can describe what happened last night in Wisconsin's as anything other than a big loss for the Unions. They poured plenty of money into this effort and brought Hollywood stars in. If the Sentiment was as pro union as some lead us to believe , it would have been a slam dunk. The two pubs that lost last night, originally won their seats by razor thin margins.
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
The both had similar goals , but with different approaches. Walker's theory was to cut the head off the snake, Cuomo's theory was threatening to starve it to death... Make no mistake, Cuomo would have laid off as many as necessary to meet his budget goals. The Unions knew he wasn't bluffing and played ball. Walker should have followed this same path in Wisconsin. I don't think you can describe what happened last night in Wisconsin's as anything other than a big loss for the Unions. They poured plenty of money into this effort and brought Hollywood stars in. If the Sentiment was as pro union as some lead us to believe , it would have been a slam dunk. The two pubs that lost last night, originally won their seats by razor thin margins.
Unions did pour dollars into the Wisconsin fight. But so did the Koch Bros and like minded Right Wingers. Recall elections are notorious for failing. I don't remember the exact number but the success rate is something like 5 or 10%. The two Democrat victories won't change the majority in the Wisconsin house, but it is a HUGE wake up call to those Republicans who, like these two, barely got enough votes to be elected, and will have to face these voters in a year for their reelection.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The DEMS/Obama fell on their face. As usual. They flushed over $30 MILLION in a failed attempt to reverse the will of the electorate. They should have bussed in more rioters. Good! That much less in 2012 when the DEM US Senate seat becomes open.
The DEMS/Obama fell on their face. As usual. They flushed over $30 MILLION in a failed attempt to reverse the will of the electorate. They should have bussed in more rioters. Good! That much less in 2012 when the DEM US Senate seat becomes open.
Sounds like a good investment... $15 million per seat to unseat 2 Republicans... and far less than the Koch Bros et al spent to fight this recall and lost two seats. The people of Wisconsin have had enough of Chaos Government.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
This is a victory against radicalism and FOR good moderate conservative ideas of keeping the middle class able to best afford things and live the American dream and lifestyle. With the right leaders in the political world there is no reason we can't be more bipartisan.
FDR, one of the most liberal Presidents that this country ever had, saw the dangers in allowing the unions to strong arm the government by threatening them through elections. It's far too easy for a politician to accept the unions demands when that politician knows full well that when the benefits have to be paid he will be long gone from office. Politicians have to get some backbone and just say no to the unions when they see that the taxpayer can't afford those wages/benefits and hope the people will support their decision in the next election.
The end of the middle class is near when people cannot unionize in order to help level the playing field against the greed. That is a well documented fact that no one disputes and when you have so many working families and young single mothers attempting to make ends meet then you need to protect them.
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Nice try Box. It was another DEM/Obama flop. The REPS still hold the Senate majority despite millions dumped in attack ads by unions and DEM front groups making false charges. The Wisconsin voters have had enough of high taxes and deficit spending. In NYS the morons still "understand the importance of high taxes".
