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DemocraticVoiceOfReason
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The tax cap will be passed by the state leg and the governor will sign it.    The governor's budget proposal cutslocal aid but increases incentives for municipalities that consolidate.     That means that what I have said all along ---- municipalities will consolidate ---- was right on the money.

Now if only we could get a State Senator that has the cajones to fight to eliminate all those unfunded state mandates that get laid on the backs  of the counties and local governments.


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Does the "tax cap" include fees, because you know the city of Schenectady is going to fee us to death.
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If the democraps controlled the senate they would never have passed the tax cap in a million years.


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Cuomo's idea of consolidation, and the one's he mentioned in his speech, were in reference to STATE DEPARTMENTS.


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Cuomo's idea of consolidation, and the one's he mentioned in his speech, were in reference to STATE DEPARTMENTS.


and Cuomo's budget proposal will offer incentives to school districts and local governments that consolidate --
he is using the "carrot and stick approach" by cutting state aid to school districts and local governments  (the stick) and offering incentives  (the carrot) for them to voluntarily consolidate.


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Does the "tax cap" include fees, because you know the city of Schenectady is going to fee us to death.


I have not seen the specific language in the proposed legislation.   My understanding is that it is a specifically a property tax cap.


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and they increased the places where lotto quick draw and the likes can be sold.....there's a 'sure bet' for NYS future....you see the gumbas still
need to get fed......GET OFF MY BACK......


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and they increased the places where lotto quick draw and the likes can be sold.....there's a 'sure bet' for NYS future....you see the gumbas still
need to get fed......GET OFF MY BACK......


No one forces you to buy lottery tickets or play the quick draw.  Those who want to .. do it.   Those who don't .. don't.   Quite simple really.


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No one forces you to buy lottery tickets or play the quick draw.  Those who want to .. do it.   Those who don't .. don't.   Quite simple really.


my point being.....IT'S GAMBLING.....not a solid foundation....do you pay your bills hoping to win the big one????

really.....SHOW ME THE $$ TRAIL......I bet it leads right to the gumba gangstas....


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Quoted from senders

my point being.....IT'S GAMBLING.....not a solid foundation....do you pay your bills hoping to win the big one????

really.....SHOW ME THE $$ TRAIL......I bet it leads right to the gumba gangstas....


The only gambling that I do is at Saratoga  one day a year in August and at the casino in the Poconos one dayevery summer  --- and a few dollars here and there on the Megamillions.


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Instead of real property tax cuts a mandatory 2% increase on record levels of taxation. More nothing from Albany. DVR is right they have done nothing to slash oppressive State Mandates.

     And it's worse than that. The State Senate created a super majority exemption. If a super majority of a town or school districts want-they can increase above the phony "cap". This means that Schenectady County, City, Rotterdam, Niskayuna {all controlled by super majority DEMS} can increase property taxes as much as they want.
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if smoke and mirrors = podium puck then Tax Cap.........


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Quoted from benny salami
Instead of real property tax cuts a mandatory 2% increase on record levels of taxation. More nothing from Albany. DVR is right they have done nothing to slash oppressive State Mandates.

     And it's worse than that. The State Senate created a super majority exemption. If a super majority of a town or school districts want-they can increase above the phony "cap". This means that Schenectady County, City, Rotterdam, Niskayuna {all controlled by super majority DEMS} can increase property taxes as much as they want.


The state needs to pass some common sense legislation that would allow local governments to cut spending --such as ---   down in Ulster County a few "government entities"  want to be able to pool their employees into a larger group plan for health insurance  -- such a move would save a lot of dough ... but state law prevents them from doing it.

It isn't as if they are asking to build a rocket to fly to  Pluto -- they just need some common sense changes  in state law that would enable them cut spending and save their property owners much money on their tax bills.


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NOPE

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New YorkThe widespread use of public authorities in the United States was pioneered in New York state by Robert Moses. The approval of the New York State Public Authorities Control Board is required in some cases when creating an authority. An authority may at times levy taxes and tolls; this means that they are not part of the usual state budgetary process, and gives them a certain independence. Their most admired ability by the New York State and local government, is to circumvent strict public debt limits in the New York State Constitution. Furthermore, they may make contracts; because of public authorities' corporate status, there is, generally, no remedy against the chartering State for the breach of such contracts. John Grace & Co. v. State University Constr. Fund, 44 N.Y.2d 84, 375 N.E.2d 377; 404 N.Y.S.2d 316 (197. On the other hand, as agents of the state, public authorities are not subject to many laws governing private corporations, and are not subject to municipal regulation. Employees of public authorities usually are not state employees, but are employees of the authority. Ciulla v. State, 191 Misc. 528; 77 N.Y.S.2d 545; (NY Court of Claims, 194. Public authorities can also often condemn property. See Generally 87 NY Jur PUBLIC AUTHORITIES Section 1 et seq.


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Public authorities are currently responsible for more than 90% of the state's debt and 80% of the state's infrastructure, leading some to refer to them as the "shadow government."



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The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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New York State Thruway Authority
New York State Canal Corporation
Accuracy of Employee Retirement Reporting
The New York State Thruway Authority maintains New York’s superhighway system, and its subsidiary, the New York State Canal Corporation, maintains the State’s canal system. The Authority enrolls many of its employees in the New York State Employees’ Retirement System. We examined the Authority’s enrollment practices and found that they complied with State requirements. In addition, the Authority is required to report certain information to the Retirement System about the enrolled employees’ earnings and number of days worked. We examined these reporting practices and found that the information reported by the Authority was, for the most part, accurate. However, we identified one reporting error, which we recommended be corrected.

For a complete copy of Report 2008-S-57 click here.
For a copy of the 90-day response click here.
For a copy of the associated follow-up report click here.



http://osc.state.ny.us/audits/allaudits/093008/08s57.htm


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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