So if it was a "real" marriage, how are the kids legit? The whole thing is a crock.

If you contribute enough money anything is possible.

This goes back almost 20 years. Things could have changed since then. A girl I use to work with was having her marriage annulled. They didn't have children. The initial cost was $500.00. The church told her it wouldn't take more than 6 months. After 9 months, she wanted to remarry someone else. The church told her that for another $500, they could rush it through in 2 week. She paid and they did.

How wonderful. So what happens when you have kids and your wife cheats as in the case of Dracula. You pay money and they throw the failed marriage into the trash can to wipe the slate clean? What does that say to the kids?

What a load.

Quoted from JoAnn

This goes back almost 20 years. Things could have changed since then. A girl I use to work with was having her marriage annulled. They didn't have children. The initial cost was $500.00. The church told her it wouldn't take more than 6 months. After 9 months, she wanted to remarry someone else. The church told her that for another $500, they could rush it through in 2 week. She paid and they did.

I doubt that this happened in the Diocese of Albany --- the Diocese's policy has been pretty much as I
described it since the late 1970's or early 1980's ... definitely as of 1981.

I know that other dioceses have different policies .. and I couldn't nor wouldn't comment on those other
dioceses policies and procedures.

As for children, the official Catholic Church teaching is that NO child is "illegitimate" -- even a child born
outside of marriage.     Applying the term "illegitimate" to a child was something that others OUTSIDE the
church may have done or, in some cases, secular governments ... but definitely NOT the Church.

tell that to the kid

Quoted from GrahamBonnet

tell that to the kid

Don't blame the Church for something that is said by secular goverments and ignorant people who
don't know any better.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

I doubt that this happened in the Diocese of Albany --- the Diocese's policy has been pretty much as I
described it since the late 1970's or early 1980's ... definitely as of 1981.

I know that other dioceses have different policies .. and I couldn't nor wouldn't comment on those other
dioceses policies and procedures.

It was the Albany Diocese.

Quoted from JoAnn

It was the Albany Diocese.

then it happened much longer than 20 years ago or it didn't happen as you claim it did

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

then it happened much longer than 20 years ago or it didn't happen as you claim it did

Oh good idea - call JoAnn a liar.

Nice job Ron.

Quoted from 147

Oh good idea - call JoAnn a liar.

Nice job Ron.

I didn't call anyone a liar.    I know for a fact that the Diocese of Albany's policy about annullments was
NOTHING like what she described after about 1980.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

I didn't call anyone a liar.    I know for a fact that the Diocese of Albany's policy about annullments was
NOTHING like what she described after about 1980.

it didn't happen as you claim it did ...

ok.

Have you ever been divorced and inquired in person what has to be done to get an annulment instead of just parroting the propaganda from the church?

Quoted from Shadow

Have you ever been divorced and inquired in person what has to be done to get an annulment instead of just parroting the propaganda from the church?

No but a) I had two very close relatives go through the annullment process in the early 1980's between 1980 and 1982 and  b) I studied the Canon Law of Marriage in graduate school.