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Firefighters in rural Tennessee let a home burn to the ground last week because the homeowner hadn't paid a $75 fee.

Gene Cranick of Obion County and his family lost all of their possessions in the Sept. 29 fire, along with three dogs and a cat.

"They could have been saved if they had put water on it, but they didn't do it," Cranick told MSNBC's Keith Olbermann.

The fire started when the Cranicks' grandson was burning trash near the family home. As it grew out of control, the Cranicks called 911, but the fire department from the nearby city of South Fulton would not respond.

"We wasn't on their list," he said the operators told him.

Cranick, who lives outside the city limits, admits he "forgot" to pay the annual $75 fee. The county does not have a county-wide firefighting service, but South Fulton offers fire coverage to rural residents for a fee.

Cranick says he told the operator he would pay whatever is necessary to have the fire put out.

His offer wasn't accepted, he said.

The fire fee policy dates back 20 or so years.

"Anybody that's not inside the city limits of South Fulton, it's a service we offer. Either they accept it or they don't," said South Fulton Mayor David Crocker.

Firefighters did eventually show up, but only to fight the fire on the neighboring property, whose owner had paid the fee.

"They put water out on the fence line out here. They never said nothing to me. Never acknowledged. They stood out here and watched it burn," Cranick said.

South Fulton's mayor said that the fire department can't let homeowners pay the fee on the spot, because the only people who would pay would be those whose homes are on fire.

Cranick, who is now living in a trailer on his property, says his insurance policy will help cover some of his lost home.

"Insurance is going to pay for what money I had on the policy, looks like. But like everything else, I didn't have enough."

After the blaze, South Fulton police arrested one of Cranick's sons, Timothy Allen Cranick, on an aggravated assault charge, according to WPSD-TV, an NBC station in Paducah, Ky.

Police told WPSD that the younger Cranick attacked Fire Chief David Wilds at the firehouse because he was upset his father's house was allowed to burn.

WPSD-TV reported that Wilds was treated and released.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39516346/ns/us_news-life/
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More bashing by Olberman - he starts off blaming "Tea Party" policies.

If you don't pay your cable bill - guess what?

If you don't pay your car insurance - guess what?

If you don't pay your phone bill - guess what?

If you don't pay your "curb fee" - guess what?
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and if some folks get their way and we privatize the town's ambulance service ... we
may be reading how  some private firm refused to take a deathly ill person to the
Emergency Room until they prepaid for their ambulance ride


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Your trying to get people to see things your way by fear tactics but most know that isn't the way it works.
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and if some folks get their way and we privatize the town's ambulance service ... we
may be reading how  some private firm refused to take a deathly ill person to the
Emergency Room until they prepaid for their ambulance ride


Sorry, Mohawk doesn't bill until AFTER the ride.  They've got enough in their general fund to cover slackers like you.
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The liberal socialist use the fear tactic whenever they want to spend taxpayer's money!!! The liberal socialists would like to have people believe that there will be some poor senior citizen, gasping for breath, having a heart attack and visualizing Mohawk Ambulance just standing there watching them die!!! Pathetic and shameful!!


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and if some folks get their way and we privatize the town's ambulance service ... we
may be reading how  some private firm refused to take a deathly ill person to the
Emergency Room until they prepaid for their ambulance ride


it's the reverse silly.....you pay AFTER the ride......oh brother.....but,,,,as for all the PILOT programs who pays then???? just us schmucks

GET OFF MY BACK....STOP BEING FEARFUL LITTLE MICE....the cheese has moved


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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if a private for profit company is the only ambulance service in town ....  notice I did not mention a
specific company at all ...  then we MAY read an article like that in the future ..  I never said we would or
that they bill that way now.

You really must read more slowly and read for comprehensions, as well.


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if a private for profit company is the only ambulance service in town ....  notice I did not mention a
specific company at all ...  then we MAY read an article like that in the future ..  I never said we would or
that they bill that way now.

You really must read more slowly and read for comprehensions, as well.


Nooooo, you must really think before you post DVR!!!!
Remember?...........Yes, I would work with Frank ... IF he became a Democrat..
Yes DVR......this is YOUR post in YOUR words! It's called 'working together'!


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Nooooo, you must really think before you post DVR!!!!
Remember?...........Yes, I would work with Frank ... IF he became a Democrat..
Yes DVR......this is YOUR post in YOUR words! It's called 'working together'!


I know what I wrote .. and the post about Frank had nothing to do with burning houses .. but since
you brought him up here ... IF he became a Democrat then I would help him if he runs for public
office.
If Frank came to me for help on another matter .. not running for office .. I would help him whether he
was a Democrat or not.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
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if a private for profit company is the only ambulance service in town ....  notice I did not mention a
specific company at all ...  then we MAY read an article like that in the future ..  I never said we would or
that they bill that way now.

You really must read more slowly and read for comprehensions, as well.


Then you are also blowing the horn for national healthcare.....did you see the report how nurses with 'certain degrees' will be legally
allowed to perform some procedures that were MD allowed in the past......

although I have GREAT respect for NP's and their doctorates if received....THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEDICINE AND NURSING

you see national healthcare will allow anyone to perform anything so that folks will 'get served' and be able to palate the cost
of such an unholy monster as National Healthcare......

and you ma'am/sir apparently dont think a building should be allowed to burn if the taxes aren't paid...you can call them fees/taxes
or whatever(trick of the politician tongue)....but the fact remains that you want other folks to pay for those who wont/cant/refuse....

as for the 'burning fee'....in capitalism you pay AFTER service....hence use ambulance then pay for ambulance......
in government it's called...dont worry dont think we will do it for you...pay us 'protection money'.....gangstas!

I am betting(and I hate gambling) that REMS is looking to become a government monkey on our backs x3.....3 meaning the added
'tax'/'fee' on top of what we ALREADY contribute to this unholy NATIONAL HEALTHCARE.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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... we
may be reading how  some private firm refused to take a deathly ill person to the
Emergency Room until they prepaid for their ambulance ride


Do you know the difference between loss of property and loss of life?

If you refuse to pay your optinal $75 dollar fire fee, the fire department lets your house burn.  If you refuse to pay a MANDITORY fire district tax or any other tax - YOU GO TO PRISON!  


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Then you are also blowing the horn for national healthcare.....did you see the report how nurses with 'certain degrees' will be legally
allowed to perform some procedures that were MD allowed in the past......

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It is mind blowing how the Regressive Ideology espoused by the Nattering Nabobs of Negativity leads them
to such distortions of the truth.    But then they probably studied Goebbels and Suslov --- and believe that
if they tell the same lie over and over again ... someone might actually stop laughing at them and believe
the lie.


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Do you know the difference between loss of property and loss of life?

If you refuse to pay your optinal $75 dollar fire fee, the fire department lets your house burn.  If you refuse to pay a MANDITORY fire district tax or any other tax - YOU GO TO PRISON!  


hmmmm.....it appears that DVR is avoiding yet ANOTHER factual post!!!


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It is mind blowing how the Regressive Ideology espoused by the Nattering Nabobs of Negativity leads them
to such distortions of the truth.    But then they probably studied Goebbels and Suslov --- and believe that
if they tell the same lie over and over again ... someone might actually stop laughing at them and believe
the lie.



George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
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