Quoted from Shadow

Charging a resident about $4,000 to hook-up the sewer line that the resident has to pay a plumber to put their sewer pipe to where the town owns the property can really put a damper on people wanting to hook up to the sewer system. You can pump out the septic tank a whole bunch of times for that price. I'll bet a private plumber, if allowed could hook to the main sewer line a lot cheaper than what the town charges.

I am sure that town is not making a profit on sewer hook-ups.    I am not saying that it is inexpensive to
hook up to  a public sewer.   The fact is that properties with a public sewer hook-up are more marketable
than properties without.

In the Junction,  one of the reasons that it is next to impossible to develop a new small business along
5-S ... in the area closest to the town's water wells  (behind the Knotty Pine)  ... is that the new business
would have to be on a septic tank.      New septic systems in that sensitive area are a NO NO...  hence
you won't see true economic revival there  unless   a) you get the state and feds to exempt the Junction
from all the environmental protection laws  or b) you install a public sewer system.

We all agree that sewers are advantageous to residents and business alike but until the cost to the resident can be somehow reduced residents will not approve a new sewer district. The residents voted a sewer district down in the Highbridge Rd area when Time Warner was built. Masullo Estates voted down a sewer district in their area due to high cost as well.

Quoted from Shadow

We all agree that sewers are advantageous to residents and business alike but until the cost to the resident can be somehow reduced residents will not approve a new sewer district. The residents voted a sewer district down in the Highbridge Rd area when Time Warner was built. Masullo Estates voted down a sewer district in their area due to high cost as well.

The sad fact is ... in the early 1970's the Federal and State governments had a program that would have
paid 95% of the cost of installing sewers.    Rotterdam had the option to sign on to the plan.   Mr. Kirvin
never put it before the public .. so the town lost out on having 95% of the cost of installation paid by federal and  state grants.

As for Masullo Estates, they wouldn't pay for sewers but they demanded and got the town to spend $1.5 mil
on their water problem ... which basically just shifts the problem to people on the other side of RT 158 or
down the line.

Getting back to the Junction --- one nice thing about the BOA Program -- it opens the door for many Federal
and State grants --- it may be possible to get a sewer district started with some Federal and
State grants .... I emphasize the  word .. may ...   So at least let's look at whether the funds are available
and it is feasible ... rather than just shrugging our shoulders and saying it is impossible.

I'm not as optimistic as you DVOR since the local/state/federal governments are just about bankrupt so I see very little chance of Rotterdam getting any grant money until such time as the country solves it's huge debt problem. Kirvan should have taken advantage of the grants when the funds were there and the town wouldn't be in the shape sewer wise that it's in.

WE ARE THAT SHORTSIGHTED.....PATHETIC...the whole time GE was a'booming it could have been done......WHERE DID THE $$ GO?????

resale value in the junction...most of the homes are falling down and as i have said, they need to clean the place up...sewers wont do that ( septic works just fine ). The turnout was not a representation of the town and its people....it was a bunch of old folks with short term fixes and a wish list that is really a pipe dream. The Town needs a new look and a new reputation....Tell anyone that lives in Rotterdam that you live in the Junction and they make a face as if its the worst place to live....run down and bad people...the people themselves need to get rid of that stigma by stepping up to the plate a changing things....maybe that will never happen because there might be some truth in what others say.

Quoted from biaggio

resale value in the junction...most of the homes are falling down and as i have said, they need to clean the place up...sewers wont do that ( septic works just fine ). The turnout was not a representation of the town and its people....it was a bunch of old folks with short term fixes and a wish list that is really a pipe dream. The Town needs a new look and a new reputation....Tell anyone that lives in Rotterdam that you live in the Junction and they make a face as if its the worst place to live....run down and bad people...the people themselves need to get rid of that stigma by stepping up to the plate a changing things....maybe that will never happen because there might be some truth in what others say.

     Again, as I have said in prior posts, Where are ya headed with the sewers?  Your wastewater treatment plant either is, or will be at capacity when the other projects in Rotterdam are completed.  You can't pump the whole length of 890 to get to the existing plant.  So that tells me the Junction needs its own plant.  Millions more on infrastructure . . . . .  

No sewers is where I'm going...isnt that what I said !

Quoted from Shadow

I'm not as optimistic as you DVOR since the local/state/federal governments are just about bankrupt so I see very little chance of Rotterdam getting any grant money until such time as the country solves it's huge debt problem. Kirvan should have taken advantage of the grants when the funds were there and the town wouldn't be in the shape sewer wise that it's in.

What I said was the very fact that Rotterdam Junction is part of this BOA Study .. means that Rotterdam
Junction will be  AT THE FRONT of the list when it comes to qualifying for federal, state, and some private
grants.

to respond to the other posts --- yes- the current sewage treatment plant is near capacity .. and yes it is
expensive to install sewer infrastructure

The point of my post was --- a) a number of folks at the Junction meeting were interested in sewers,  
b)  sewers would alleviate a major environmental concern that is presently restricting the ability to build
any new residential or commercial structures along Route 5-S and limiting the ability to reuse the
existing building stock for any  different use than what it is presently being used for,  and

c)  my main point ---- while we are in the study phase ---- no harm is done in gathering information and
investigating  whether it is POSSIBLE and/or FEASIBLE to do sewers or any number of things .....   at least
then the residents and town leaders will have a full range of options to choose from.  Then leave it up
to the residents and town leades to choose which options to pursue.

good points

just wonder...anyone on this blog that lives in the Junction...how old are you what do you do and what do you think about what should happen down there...

didnt think so...

Quoted from biaggio

didnt think so...

hey...if I recall you were from my neck of the woods and moved there.....remember the 'revitalize Hamburg st' and the studies.....

the three differences between the past studies along Hamburg St and the BOA Study being done for
Rotterdam Junction are:

a) completion of the BOA Study puts that study area AT THE FRONT OF THE LINE for additional federal,
state, and private grants to implement the study recommendations;
b) the BOA Study completes most, if not all, of the basic preliminary studies  (SEQR, etc)  so that when
the recommendations are ready to be implemented they are "fast tracked"

c) most importantly -- this BOA Study process has a 1000% commitment from myself and many others
that we will NOT rest until the study's recommendations are implemented  --- I promise the people of
Rotterdam Junction that I will hold this administration and every future administration -- for as long as
I live accountable to follow through for you.

WOW....campaign promises???....not if REMS isn't in......