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biaggio
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When do you think the people in the Junction will wake up to what the rest of Rotterdam really think of them...or do they know and not care...I think they dont cre and that is why it looks such a mess down there. yeah people showed up to the meeting, but just look at the place, Knotty Pine a wreck, Bobbys is a damn junk yard.....some of the houses dont even look like you could live in them..I want to see the place grow and clean up...but how do you get the mentality down there to Get It !! and help out by taking some pride..
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Considering the total number of persons in the junction --- having 60 persons turn out for the BOA Study
Public Info night was a good turn out.   I particularly thank the young man .. about 10 who came out to
attend the meeting.

It was a positive and constructive meeting .. and a lot of good ideas were generated.

This just goes to prove what I have always believed .. We can respectfully listen to each others' ideas and
hopes/dreams for their community ...  we can WORK TOGETHER as a COMMUNITY  .. we can
can make a difference ..  we can make our neighboroods and eventually our town a better place to live.

I really don't give a flying fig what the naysayers on this website think about me ... I will continue to work
FOR the causes that I believe in.  This is the down that my Great-Grandparents settled in almost 100 years
ago .. where my maternal grandfather was raised and lived until the day he died.  This is the town that my
mother grew up in.  And this is the town that I have called home for most of life ... so I am willing to
fight FOR Rotterdam and its future.    I will fight the naysayers and cowardly whiners when they try to tear
this town down.   I will keep my sleeves rolled up and WORK TEOGETHER with all of the decent, hard
working, postive thinking people  .. Democrat, Republican, Conservative, Independence, and "non-aligned" who
just want Rotterdam to be a great place to live, work, and do business.
I will continue to work FOR the residents of this town until the day they put me 6 feet under over at Saint
Adalbert's Cemetery.  

  


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as much as I do respect most of what you say, You missed the point of my statement.....The Junction is full of people who dont care, look at what a mess it is....a 10 year boy at the meeting was actually funny...The town is full of homes that the people just dont take the time to keep clean....lazy and just dont care. The people at the meeting were all old with visions of now not future. Tell me why they dont take care of things ??
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[quote=5]as much as I do respect most of what you say, You missed the point of my statement.....The Junction is full of people who dont care, look at what a mess it is....a 10 year boy at the meeting was actually funny...The town is full of homes that the people just dont take the time to keep clean....lazy and just dont care. The people at the meeting were all old with visions of now not future. Tell me why they dont take care of things ?? [/quote=5]

I was responding in general to a variety of negative posts about me on the website -- not so much to your
post alone.
The 10 year old boy at least took an interest in his community.  
As to why some folks don't take care of their property - I guess if I had the answer to that question I could
be a millionaire.


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Quoted from biaggio
as much as I do respect most of what you say, You missed the point of my statement.....The Junction is full of people who dont care, look at what a mess it is....a 10 year boy at the meeting was actually funny...The town is full of homes that the people just dont take the time to keep clean....lazy and just dont care. The people at the meeting were all old with visions of now not future. Tell me why they dont take care of things ??


The same reason why the town lacks sewers on Hamburg street......


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The same reason why the town lacks sewers on Hamburg street......


The town lacks sewers on Hamburg St because the property owners voted down a sewer district.

Judging by what I heard from the residents in Rotterdam Junction, they seemed to support the installation
of sewers in the Junction.   Exactly how we can accomplish that will have to be studied.


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The town lacks sewers on Hamburg St because the property owners voted down a sewer district.



Residents voted down a new tax. They pay the same taxes that those in the rest of Rotterdam pay and should be afforded the same services, without ADDITIONAL taxation. Period.
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Residents voted down a new tax. They pay the same taxes that those in the rest of Rotterdam pay and should be afforded the same services, without ADDITIONAL taxation. Period.


NONE of the properties in Rotterdam with public sewers are getting it for free.   The public sewers are all in
one of the several sewer tax districts in the town.   Therefore, those properties with public sewers are paying
a sewer tax specifically to pay for the installation of those sewers (whenever they were put in) and the
maintenance of those sewers.

Therefore your implication that the sewers are being paid for by the General Fund of the Town is incorrect.

My property is outside a sewer district -- we have wanted one for years -- and would be more than willing to
pay the additional tax to have a public sewer.    It seems that the residents along Hamburg St don't want
a sewer ... but no new business or developer will move in without sewers    ... so you can say that the
residents along Hamburg St have decided their own fate and destined Hamburg St to years of chronic
vacancy.


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I personaly am not looking for business in the junction hat would require the cost of sewers..The taxes are high enough as it is..remember I pay over 10,000 bucks !! I am looking for it to be cleaned up.....thats it. Clean the damn place up !! The people need to participate in that project not wait for someone do it for them. Again, the meeting represented a very small #(60 ) of the over 900 residents and the young adults didnt even bother to show up. The place can offer a beutifull place to live, it already does.....but we need some help !!
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What the people in the town object to is not the yearly sewer bill, as long as there are a lot of people in the sewer district, it's the excessive cost of the initial hook-up fee that they would have to pay.
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Not enough people in the Junction....i am already getting screwed on the water tower.....another 500 bucks year !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry my house is assessed so high, but why shoudd i pay for my water based on value....give me a meter it would be cheaper in the long run.
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I personaly am not looking for business in the junction hat would require the cost of sewers..The taxes are high enough as it is..remember I pay over 10,000 bucks !! I am looking for it to be cleaned up.....thats it. Clean the damn place up !! The people need to participate in that project not wait for someone do it for them. Again, the meeting represented a very small #(60 ) of the over 900 residents and the young adults didnt even bother to show up. The place can offer a beutifull place to live, it already does.....but we need some help !!


Actually a number of the residents at the meeting suggested that the Junction needed sewers .. and not
necessarily for new businesses.
60 out of 900 residents is about 5% -- which is actually a good sampling size.


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What the people in the town object to is not the yearly sewer bill, as long as there are a lot of people in the sewer district, it's the excessive cost of the initial hook-up fee that they would have to pay.


The sewer doesn't hook itself up for free .. and why should taxpayers who don't have sewers available to them
pay for the sewer hook ups for those who want the sewer district?

In the long run -- properties with public sewer have a greater resale value -- so trying to save money in the
short run is just costing you money in the long run.


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Charging a resident about $4,000 to hook-up the sewer line that the resident has to pay a plumber to put their sewer pipe to where the town owns the property can really put a damper on people wanting to hook up to the sewer system. You can pump out the septic tank a whole bunch of times for that price. I'll bet a private plumber, if allowed could hook to the main sewer line a lot cheaper than what the town charges.
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the town DOESN'T hook you up, you pay a plumber to do that.


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