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September 22, 2010, 4:55pm Report to Moderator
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Be nice if someone could "tweet" during the meeting
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The racetrack users packed the Council Chamber...but Della Villa did all of the talking...stressing the Industrial Zone status of the property.
The Board has instructed the PD and code officials to aggressively pursue evidence of racing...guess the DVD didn't convince them.

DiLeva assured them of every effort to resolve the matter acceptable to both parties...the residents and the kids.

Also, the retirement "target" list was voted down 3-1...Bob Godlewski voted yes.

On another note...Parisi refused to sign a consent form for outside council to defend the Town in the case involving the recent illegal
meeting...insisting that the Town has no chance and should not waste the money.
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what else happened?


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Since the retirement incentive list was defeated -- this pretty much negates the law suit --
since the whole point of the "special meeting" was to allow the town to participate in the
retirement incentive .. and, after this vote tonight,  apparently will NOT be participating in.


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Martin - here
Dileva - here
DelGallo - absent
Godlewski - here
Parisi - here

Golden - clerk

A packed house tonite


7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
SUPERVISOR’S REPORT
“Comprehensive Plan and Zoning Update”

Comp plan
Peter C.
3 studies are complete
25a - burdeck

25-area

26-area

Fine tune development

Erosion control changes

Land conservation dist added

2007 Broadway gateway study -
Changes coming

2009 the studies were added to the comp plan

Pro office/residential
Mainsteet commercial district

Performance standards added
Lighting
Landscaping
Smoke
Sound

Well heads are zoned heavy industrial

Bright green areas on the map are for ever wild

The boards choices are
No action
Or
Adopt zoning changes from studies

167000 fed grant for Rotterdam jct which include $$ for implementation

And we got a grant for 5 and 4 corners to deal with people and cars

Godlewski- the comp plan was updated last year?

Peter - correct, I would like to move forward with what we have and implement performance standards

Bob G - what is your time frame



Peter –round and round no direct answer

Matt - at what point do property owners have a say

Licardy- zoning changes are the normal process

Peter this is really your(town board) vision


PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR FOR PERSONNEL AGENDA ITEMS
PERSONNEL:
Res. No.
253.10 Accept the Supervisor’s list of targeted employees for retirement pursuant to the
provisions of Local Law No. 8 for the Year 2010 and Part A of the New York State
Retirement Incentive for the year 2010.


Parisi-n
Dileva-n
Marti-n
Godlewski-y


PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. To amend Chapter 266 of the Code of the Town of Rotterdam entitled,
“Vehicles and Traffic” as follows:
Install stop signs on Day Spring Court at its intersection with Puritan Drive
and Stacey Crest Drive.

No discussion

there was no comment

PRIVILEGE OF FLOOR FOR AGENDA ITEMS
Res. No

########All resolutions passed 4 yes 1 absent unless noted########

254.10 Adopt and authorize Supervisor to sign Negative Declaration dated September 22,
2010 for a Comprehensive Plan Amendment and Change of Zone request from the
Town of Rotterdam on an approximately 3.6 acre parcel from Retail Business (B-1)
to Multi-Family Residential (R-3) to facilitate the redevelopment of the former Draper
School property located at 901 Draper Avenue, Rotterdam, New York 12306.


255.10 Adopt Local Law No. Ten (10) of the Year 2010 for the following purpose:
Amend the Comprehensive Plan, Zoning Ordinance and Zoning Map of the Town of
Rotterdam on approximately 3.6 acre parcel from Retail Business (B-1) to Multi-
Family Residential (R-3). The property is known as Tax Parcel No. 48.20-2-1 and is
known as the former Draper School located at 901 Draper Avenue, Rotterdam, New
York 12306.

Public Hearing was called for at the Town Board meeting of August 11, 2010.
Public Hearing was held at the Town Board meeting of September 8, 2010.

256.10 Declare the Town of Rotterdam as “lead agency” and authorize the Town Planner to
prepare, file, publish and distribute all documents necessary to comply with 6 NYCRR
Part 617 & State Environmental Quality Review relative to the below-referenced
amendment to the Code of the Town of Rotterdam.

257.10 Call for public hearing to be held on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 at 7:00 p.m. at the
John F. Kirvin Government Center, Town Hall, 1100 Sunrise Boulevard, Rotterdam,
New York 12306 for the following purpose:
To amend §270-215 of Chapter 270 entitled “Erosion and Sediment
Control” and to amend §270-5 of Chapter 270 entitled “Definitions” of
the Code of the Town of Rotterdam.
258.10 Declare the Town of Rotterdam as “lead agency” and authorize the Town Planner to
prepare, file, publish and distribute all documents necessary to comply with 6 NYCRR
Part 617 & State Environmental Quality Review relative to the below-referenced
amendment to the Code of the Town of Rotterdam.
259.10 Call for public hearing to be held on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 at 7:00 p.m. at the
John F. Kirvin Government Center, Town Hall, 1100 Sunrise Boulevard, Rotterdam,
New York 12306 for the following purpose:
To amend §270-151 of Chapter 270 entitled “Signs” and to amend §270-
5 of Chapter 270 entitled “Definitions” of the Code of the Town of
Rotterdam.

Parisi. What is the issue????
Young Godlewski - To allow for sandwich board signs

260.10 Authorize the Supervisor to sign an agreement with Fiscal Advisors & Marketing, Inc.,
located at 35 Ginger Terrace, Clifton Park, New York 12065, to act as Financial
Advisor to the Town of Rotterdam.

Parisi - Nikki are you ok with this
Nikki – its legit

261.10 Authorize the Supervisor to sign an Application Service Provider Agreement with
Tyler Technologies, Inc., located at 370 U.S. Route 1, Falmouth, Maine 04105, to
provide maintenance, server, and disaster recovery service, for the accounting resource
and payroll software system.
262.10 Authorize the Supervisor to execute an out-of-district water agreement with Richard
and Sara Ware of 479 County Line Road, Schenectady, New York 12205.
263.10 Authorize the Supervisor to amend the contract between the Town of Rotterdam and
Barton & Louidice, P.C. located at 2 Corporate Plaza, Albany, New York 12203, in
connection with engineering services for the Rotterdam Junction Water Storage Tank
Improvements Project in an amount not to exceed $22,600.00.
264.10 Authorize Change Order No. 2 in the amount of $74.39 and Change Order No. 4 in the
amount of $12,100.00 in connection with the Rotterdam Junction Water Storage Tank
Improvements project in the Town of Rotterdam.
265.10 Award the bid opened on Thursday, September 16, 2010 to Lash Contracting,
Inc. for the Wastewater Treatment Plant Trickling Filter Repair for the Town of
Rotterdam.
CONSENT ITEMS:  _passed

Votes
Parisi. Y
Dileva.  Y
Marti.n.   Y
Godlewski.    Y


Res. No
266.10 Declare the following obsolete White Chevy Tahoe police vehicle as surplus and hold an auction to raise money to purchase a new car.
.
267.10 Declare the following Vehicles as obsolete to be auctioned next month conducted by Schenectady County.

268.10 Call for bids to be opened on October 20, 2010 at 10:00 a.m. at the John F. Kirvin  Government Center, 1100 Sunrise Boulevard, Rotterdam, New York 12306 for the purchase of “Police Vehicle Maintenance” for the Police Department for a two (2) year period commencing January 1, 2011 through December 31, 2012.
268.10 tabled


269.10 Call for bids to be opened on October 20, 2010 at 10:00 a.m. at the John F. Kirvin Government Center, 1100 Sunrise Boulevard, Rotterdam, New York 12306 for the purpose of paving the rear lot of the Police Department and Justice Court located at 101 Princetown Road.

270.10 Accept Town Clerk’s report for the month of August 2010.

271.10 Budget transfers by the Town Comptroller to various accounts.

DISCUSSION ITEMS
COMMITTEE REPORTS
PUBLIC COMMENT PRIVILEGE OF FLOOR
(Per Resolution No. 444.06) G
General Rules of Procedure for Public Hearings & Privilege of the Floor:
Each speaker will state his/her name and address for the record. To ensure each attendee has an equal and reasonable opportunity to address their concerns, he/she is afforded a maximum of four (4) minutes to address the Town Board.

Bob godleski

Notice in paper the rotterdam junction will shut down the water for the morning on ????

Agenda meeting a discussion of what constitutes a racetrack began

the Bldg inspectors will view the property once a day at random for a month

The code enforcement office is allowed to changes his hours

The rpd will step up patrols in the Area

No parking signs on both sides of wedgewood ave are being evaluated

Nikki - where is wedgewood

Frank will meet with longo and hamiltin

Nikki would like a public meeting or at the agenda meeting

Meeting is on oct 5th for the budget again the entire board

Parisi - lawsuit I have been asked to sign an informal consent
I don't want to encure extra cost
Please remove outside attorneys and I will sign the informed consent



Matt"s Senior Moment
Last farmer mkt. This sat


Vile of life - 27 9-3 oct 4th 9-3


floor open to public discussion

Wayne calder - applaud the super and board on the rems vote

Will we see info flyer on rems vs mohawk

Godlewski - the board has not chosen a date

A draft letter was written

What can we do

I suggest that a contact person be appointed to answer questions

10 years ago we had an ems board - we should bring it back
1/4ly report and a $$$ report

Godlewski
-if the taxing district were approved a board member was suggested last year to sit on the board commissioners





Mark delavilla- about code enforcement
The code enforcement physically sees a rider then it is a racetrack


Nikki- - I want a public meeting

Dellavella - just what is the favoritism????, Why would a town board member meet with a state trooper?


godlewski
Remember it is the code enforcement officers discussion


Matt
what does parking have to do with the racetrack

This board could modify the town code

Nikki - "I have never been short of words"

Nikki let's meet and discuss with both sides there

Let's find a common ground
Let's fix the sound

I understand the bikes are loud but the property is zoned light industrial

dellavilla
It is not a track and not intended to be a track

The meeting was very cordial


MISCELLANEOUS
ADJOURNMENT
FRANCIS DEL GALLO, Supervisor


Talking to each other is better than talking about each other
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My understanding is that even though the initial decision of whether it is a racetrack or not is
the code enforcement/building inspectors decision --- but that decision can be appealed to
the Zoning Board of Appeals by either side  (landowner or neighbors) ...  and ultimately it
could be decided by the Town Board.


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Godlewski repeatedly said

the code enforcement officer has to see a rider on the track and that is the code enforcement officers descission as to if a race track exists


Talking to each other is better than talking about each other
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lololololol  


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Quoted from TippyCanoe
Godlewski repeatedly said

the code enforcement officer has to see a rider on the track and that is the code enforcement officers descission as to if a race track exists


That is the first step .. but the neighbors could then appeal the decision - if he says it is NOT
a racetrack   .. similarly, the landwoner could appeal the decision - if he says that it is a
racetrack.     The appeal would be to the Zoning Board of Appeals.    


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Regarding the race track . . . . .

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lololololol  


Just have the code enforcer issue a ticket!
He can't unless he "sees" the racing going on!
Well have him go look at it for himself!
He won't see the racing because it is done at night or the weekends!
Well have him go over there and check it out during those times!
He can't, he's Union, and has to be compensated with overtime!
Just have his boss authorize it!
His boss won't, his kid rides there!

BTW:  In no place does the race track code reference Light Industrial, or any other type of zoning.  That point is moot.  The race track code references a "special use" of property (zoning independent) for a specific purpose, which currently is unapproved.

OK, so back to conversation:
So just enforce the Code!
Can't enforce it unless the code enforcer sees it!
Wait a minute, we just did this!
I know, ain't it great, only in Rotterdam!

WHO'S ON FIRST . . . .
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simple noise code violation in which police can issue warnings and tickets.....  look it up in town code.

all residents in ear shot of this fiasco, call the police department with complaints, should have happened since day one.


this administration continues to be a joke........
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I know that the residents have several videos of the racetrack  in operation ...  the opinion
of the town attorney is that the video alone is NOT enough to take action.
Frankly, I am not sure that this opinion is correct.   I believe that the residents should consult
an attorney and see if there is a way to use the video -- and force someone to enforce the
town law that has been on the books for decades.
It seems to me that it would be very easy to prove that the property owner does NOT have a
special use permit to operate a racetrack ...  and the town law requires both a special use
permit and proof of liability insurance  ( I believe $1 million) -- couldn't the town take the
course of requesting that the property owner prove that he has the necessary insurance ?
It seems to me -- after the Agenda meeting -- that the town is being told that there is only
ONE way to resolve the issue .. and that is through some written opinion of the code enforcer ...
I believe that there are several ways to resolve the issue  .. ways that the residents would have
to work together and pursue.


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