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WASHINGTON, DC (Catholic Online) - The change in language was barely noticeable to the average citizen but political observers are raising red flags at the use of a new term "freedom of worship" by President Obama and Secretary Clinton as a replacement for the term freedom of religion. This shift happened between the President's speech in Cairo where he showcased America's freedom of religion and his appearance in November at a memorial for the victims of Fort Hood, where he specifically used the term "freedom of worship." From that point on, it has become the term of choice for the president and Clinton.

In her article for "First Things" magazine, Ashley Samelson, International Programs Director for the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, stated, "To anyone who closely follows prominent discussion of religious freedom in the diplomatic and political arena, this linguistic shift is troubling: "The reason is simple. Any person of faith knows that religious exercise is about a lot more than freedom of worship. It's about the right to dress according to one's religious dictates, to preach openly, to evangelize, to engage in the public square. Everyone knows that religious Jews keep kosher, religious Quakers don't go to war, and religious Muslim women wear headscarves-yet "freedom of worship" would protect none of these acts of faith."



http://catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=37390&page=1
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Historically freedom of religion has been used to refer to the tolerance of different theological systems of belief, while freedom of worship was defined as freedom of individual action.

I'm sure Norman Rockewll also had a sinister Obama meaning when he painted his famous "freedom of worship" paintings.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Norman Rockwell wasn't a radical progressive liberal hell bent on destroying what's left of this country.
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Thanks to the worst president in US history, George Worst Bush, there isn't much left of American to destroy...

Your source "catholic radicals .org" does not represent the USA (Thank God) but they have a right to their opinion, no matter how misguided it happens to be.

When Obama says "Freedom of Worship" is WAYYYYYYY different than when Norman Rockwell says it.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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That's exactly what I'm afraid of.
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Thanks to the worst president in US history, George Worst Bush, there isn't much left of American to destroy...

Your source "catholic radicals .org" does not represent the USA (Thank God) but they have a right to their opinion, no matter how misguided it happens to be.

When Obama says "Freedom of Worship" is WAYYYYYYY different than when Norman Rockwell says it.  


Where did you get "radicals" in the link provided??
http://catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=37390&page=1

the word "radical" does not appear there.
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I've posted on many message boards in my time, but this one takes first prize in the category of PARANOIA!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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the word "radical" does not appear there.


Right... The radical part is in the text of their message, not their address!


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Right... The radical part is in the text of their message, not their address!


Oh that's right, catholics are radicals. Gotcha.

Fox News = Bad
Huffington Post = Good

Bush = Bad
Obama = Good (God)

Athiests = Good
Catholics / Christians = Bad

Now I understand your viewpoints.
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I'm sure Norman Rockewll also had a sinister Obama meaning when he painted his famous "freedom of worship" paintings.



For the record, Rockwell never included the "header or footer" (Buy war bonds) in his painting, that was added by the Office of War Information after 1943.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Office_of_War_Information

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Norman Rockwell wasn't a radical progressive liberal hell bent on destroying what's left of this country.


Thanks for the update MT.

So...it turns out that it wasn't Norman Rockwell  but the "United States Office Of War Information", who was Obamaesque...  "radical progressive liberal hell bent on destroying what's left of this country."


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Thanks for the update MT.

So...it turns out that it wasn't Norman Rockwell  but the "United States Office Of War Information", who was Obamaesque...  "radical progressive liberal hell bent on destroying what's left of this country."


Yep, under FDR.  Seems there's a lot of similarities between FDR and BHO:


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Franklin Delano Roosevelt (January 30, 1882 – April 12, 1945; pronounced /ˈroʊzəvɛlt/ ROE-zə-velt;[1]  also known by his initials, FDR) was the 32nd President of the United States  and a central figure in world events during the mid-20th century, leading the United States during a time of worldwide economic crisis and world war. The only American president elected to more than two terms, he forged a durable coalition that realigned American politics for decades. FDR defeated incumbent Republican Herbert Hoover in November 1932, at the depths of the Great Depression. FDR's combination of optimism and activism revived the national spirit. He led the United States through World War II, dying at the start of his fourth term just as victory was near over Germany and Japan.

In his first "Hundred Days" in office, starting March 4, 1933, Roosevelt launched a variety of major programs. In his first term (1933–36), FDR led Congress to enact the New Deal, a large, complex interlocking set of programs designed to produce relief (especially government jobs for the unemployed), recovery (of the economy), and reform (by which he meant regulation of Wall Street, banks and transportation). The economy improved rapidly from 1933 to 1937, but then went into a deep recession. The bipartisan Conservative Coalition that formed in 1937 prevented his packing the Supreme Court or passing much new legislation; it abolished many of the relief programs when unemployment practically ended during World War II. Most of the regulations on business were ended about 1975–85, except for the regulation of Wall Street by the Securities and Exchange Commission, which still exists. Along with several smaller programs, the major surviving program is Social Security, which Congress passed in 1935.
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Ya beat me to it MT.  FDR was a radical.  He, like Rahm Emanuel/BHO, didn't let a crisis go to waste.  


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