Right out of Saul Alinsky's book ... *I am familar that Saul Alinsky is a political figure, but never though his work was worth reading. But apparently you found his work interesting.*
I don't believe in redistribution of someone else's wealth to a lazy slug who refused to get an education and make his own way in the world.
But apparently by your chosen politics, you do believe in: ~A redistribution of wealth by giving Rich people a tax cut, and putting the burden on the shrinking middle class and the poor. m(remember, a tax cut for one group -the rich-, with out a like spending cut, is a TAX INCREASE for everyone not in the group) ~You do believe in giving multinational corporations such tax shelters that many pay NO TAX at all. And ~You do believe that Rich people deserve health care while the middle class have to scrounge for what ever they can manage to afford often none!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I'd actually like to see the IRS completely disbanded and go to a flat tax of 10% to 15% so the more you make the more taxes you pay. I believe that you get an education, a good job, and buy your own health-care if your employer doesn't supply it. Many of the poor can't get a good job because of bad choices they made, drugs, drop out of school, alcohol addiction, or just plain lazy. We should help people to get on their feet not pay them for the rest of their lives to sit home on their a** and collect a welfare check forever. As the saying goes give a man a fish and feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and he can feed himself forever.
Just a quick question... When all these great Obama conspiracies turn out to be bogus... once you learn that it always was a lie... Why do you believe the next one?
Because they don't turn out to be bogus, it just takes a while for the MSM to see the light and actually report facts without a liberal spin on them. BHO is already falling out of favor with the media - he's pi$$ed them off as much as the American people.
Did you come here to start trouble because your own forum failed Mike?
Many of the poor can't get a good job because of bad choices they made, drugs, drop out of school, alcohol addiction, or just plain lazy. We should help people to get on their feet not pay them for the rest of their lives to sit home on their a** and collect a welfare check forever.
I agree with your view of the LAZY. Those who are drug addicted or undereducated, should be given a helping hand to help them break free from those issues.
HOWEVER. ~An acquaintance from Connecticut, who is self employed, and earns over $75,000 a year, cannot afford health insurance because of a pre-existing condition... so this well educated, self employed businessman with a good income has no health care. (Until Obama Care which should be available to him soon) ~A roofer who was working for a self employed roofing company with 3 employees, and no health care, fell from a roof and landed on a porch railing. His injuries were extensive and permanent. He sued his friend and employer for medical bills... the employer went out of business and the roofer went on welfare. His wife who did work part time had to quit her job to take care of her hubby. If that scenario were to happen after Obama care, the contractor could afford health care for his employees and would still be in business. ~My kids when they were between college, or the military and a permanent job had no health care. My coverage for them expired, and with no job, they were uninsured until the got a full time job with benefits. Under Obama care, they would be covered either under my plan or by affordable insurance now available.
For many of us, being on welfare is just a traffic accident away, or a work accident away or a diagnosis of cancer or just some bad luck away.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Did you come here to start trouble because your own forum failed Mike?
MIKE???
OMG, this IS Hilarious!!!
MT... I assure you my name is NOT Mike! LOL! I started posting here a few months back, but I know no one on this board, and I assume that no one knows me. Your CSI investigation abilities have failed you I'm afraid. I don't know how I could prove to you that I'm not your Mike, but I suggest you ask MIKE about it and check his response.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Shadow makes a good Conservative Sheep... Just a hint of a conspiracy and he is already foaming at the mouth in anticipation of the NEXT Conspiracy. Birthers, UFO's The Great BMI Conspiracy, Obama for govt funded Abortion in PA conspiracy... I can't wait to see what Insane Right Wing Conspiracy hits next.
(Just a quick question... When all these great Obama conspiracies turn out to be bogus... once you learn that it always was a lie... Why do you believe the next one?
boxy.....how many times do you have to be reminded that the words RIGHT WING and LEFT WING and CONSERVATIVE are just names fronted for the globalist? People need to get out of the globalist man made political ideology! Both the RIGHT and LEFT have the same agenda.....they want complete power! And no matter if it's the RIGHT or the LEFT......the end result will inevitably be the same. Dontcha get that yet boxy??? Or perhaps you are just trying to create a useless 'debate to no where'?
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Great Link MT! We often type LOL, but that link made me actually LOL!
Sorry but I'm not Mike... and don't even know Mike or any one else on this board.
If I can be of assistance in any way to prove that fact... let me know. Possibly you can call Mike on the phone while I post here? Good Luck with your MIKE QUEST!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
then why are you even wasting your time trying to prove one supreme over the other? I just don't get it!!! THEY ARE THE SAME!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
On the subject of the Optional war in Iraq... George Worst Bush/Dick Shootemup Cheney pushed that war. There was some anti Saddam rhetoric among Democrats, but until GWB/DC proposed a war, and provided bogus evidence promoting the war, there was no support for an invasion in Iraq among democrats. The Iraq war, agree with it or not, was a totally Republican venture.
Universal Health Care.
Although proposed by many previous presidents, both republican and democrat, there was almost NO support for Health Care for America among the Republicans... while the Democrats have touted health care as a campaign promise for as long as I can remember. The GOP fought health care and the Democrats under Obama finally passed a comprehensive Health Care bill in spite of the 'party of NO' objections.
I understand that you see no difference between parties, but especially in these two issues, I do!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
You are right Box the Dems have been pushing for Health-care for a long time the Reps have been asking them how do we pay for it and they didn't have an answer and they still don't. When the Dems finally release the taxes that are going to be enacted in the next budget, a possible vat tax, they will have to tax everything breathing to try to come up with enough money to pay for their radical agenda you're going to hear a loud scream from Reps, Dems and Inds. Obama said he wouldn't raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000, is that like GHWB saying read my lips no new taxes. Obama will be finished and will be a 1 term president. We can't pay for what the administration has passed so far and they're still trying to pass immigration and cap and tax er trade which is a sham. Cap and trade is just another way to redistribute wealth to the poorer countries in the world from the perceived rich countries of the world.
CNSNews.com Obama's Electronic Health Records Czar: HIV Status and Abortions Need Not be Included Wednesday, July 21, 2010 By Matt Cover, Staff Writer
(CNSNews.com) – Dr. David Blumenthal, the Obama administration's National Coordinator for Health Information Technology, said on Tuesday that patients can choose to omit procedures such as abortions and positive HIV tests from the electronic health records (EHR) that every American is supposed to have by 2014 under the terms of the economic stimulus law that President Barack Obama signed last year.
Blumenthal's office, a subdivision of the Department of Health and Human Services, was created by the stimulus law specifically to generate the standards and regulations that will govern the federally mandated use of EHRs.
Section 3001 of the stimulus law charges the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology with overseeing the "development of a nationwide health information technology infrastructure that allows for the electronic use and exchange of information" that, among other things, "reduces health care costs resulting from inefficiency, medical errors, inappropriate care, duplicative care, and incomplete information" and "provides appropriate information to help guide medical decisions at the time and place of care."
The law requires Blumenthal's office to set "specific objectives, milestones, and metrics with respect to the following: (i) The electronic exchange and use of health information and the enterprise integration of such information. (ii) The utilization of an electronic health record for each person in the United States by 2014."
In order to get hospitals, doctors and other health care providers to comply with the creation of EHRs for "each person in the United States by 2014," the stimulus law provided for federal bonus payments to be made to providers who generate records complying with the federal standards by 2014. Health care providers that do not use EHRs that meet the federal standards by 2014 will have their Medicare and Medicaid payments progressively diminished as a penalty for failure to comply.
Last week, Blumenthal held a press conference with HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and Dr. Donald Berwick, the recently recess-appointed head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services(CMS), to announce the final regulation for the EHRs.
The regulations state that a user must be able "to create an electronic copy of a patient's clinical information, including, at a minimum, diagnostic test results, problem list, medication list, medication allergy list, and procedures" and that this electronic information must be in a "human readable format."
In an interview videotaped on Capitol Hill on Tuesday, CNSNews.com asked Blumenthal whether abortions and HIV tests must be included in an EHR, as the new regulations, on their face, seem to suggest.
“The regulations that came out state that hospitals and doctors have to provide problems lists, medications [lists], diagnostic test results, copies of those things in the electronic health record," said CNSNews.com. "Does that mean that a test result like, say, an HIV test or a procedure like an abortion would have to go on an electronic health record”
Blumenthal said, “Any specific information recorded in the record is an issue between the doctor and the patient, not an issue that this regulation specifies.”
CNSNew.com followed up: "So, when it says a 'test result,' if they did an HIV test they wouldn't have to put it in the record?"
"It's between the doctor and the patient," said Blumenthal.
CNSNews.com asked: "So what does have to go in there?"
"The information that the patient and the physician agree needs to be in the record," said Blumenthal.
CNSNews.com asked: "So you can say, 'I don't want this in my health record, I don't want that in my health record, in my EHR'"?
Blumenthal responded: "Exactly the same thing in the paper world would pertain in the electronic world."
Before speaking with Blumenthal, CNSNews.com asked the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) via email whether abortions and STDs must be included in the new EHRs, and if abortions and STDs need not be included what other surgical procedures and diseases could be excluded from the EHRs. If in fact abortions and STDs could be excluded from the EHRs, CNSNews.com also asked HHS to point out where specifically the law exempted abortions, STDs or any other procedures or diseases from being included in the records.
Peter Garrett, the spokesman for HHS's Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology, responded by email.
“Nothing in the HITECH electronic health record regulations or in our policies touches on or requires the recording of any particular type of health information in a particular patient's personal health record,” Garrett said in an e-mail.
“That is between the doctor and patient,” Garrett wrote. “The EHR incentive program is a voluntary program. If a physician chooses to participate, they are not required to record any specific type of health information and the physician needs the patient's consent in order to record any of their personal health information. As with all medical records, protecting the privacy of patients' heatlh information is a top priority and informational privacy will continue to be protected as EHRs become more widely used.”
The “incentive program" Garrett refers to is the system of bonus payments the government will make to health care providers that implement EHRs by 2014. Garrett did not mention the penalty system that diminishes a health-care provider's Medicare and Medicaid payments if it does not comply with the EHR mandate by 2014. As the January 13, 2010 edition of the Federal Register noted: "Section 1848(a)(7) of the Act provides that beginning in CY 2015, EPs who are not meaningful users of certified EHR technology will receive less than 100 percent of the fee schedule for their professional services."
Electronic Health Record sample (Wikipedia Commons) According to CMS’s own regulations issued on July 13, doctors and hospitals must demonstrate “meaningful use” of EHRs to qualify for federal subsidies before 2014.
Among the regulations that Dr. Blumenthal issued last week for health-care providers seeking to demonstrate that they are engaging in “meaningful use” of EHRs is that they: “Maintain an up-to-date problem list of current and active diagnoses."
The regulations also require the EHRs to include a patient's "problem list" as well as "procedures."
What a "problem list" must entail is defined in separate federal regulations – referenced in those issued by Dr. Blumenthal on July 13. These regulations say such a list will include: “(i) Diseases. (ii) Injuries. (iii) Impairments. (iv) Other health problems and their manifestations. (v) Causes of injury, disease, impairment, or other health problems.”
"Procedures" are defined as actions taken with regard to: “(i) Prevention. (ii) Diagnosis. (iii) Treatment. (iv) Management,” of those things listed on the problems list.
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