So the theme seems to be... ~You can't trust any Muslim, so ~Kill all the Muslims. ~Everything Muslims do has sinister motives. ~Their religion is "evil" so exterminate them before they exterminates us. ~and what about those Hindus??? Can they be trusted??? Lets exterminate them also. ~and might as well get those Buddhists... Remember Pearl Harbor... most of those pilots were Buddhists or Shinto.
Reading this thread is an exercise in bigotry.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
They're not against the Muslims building a Mosque just not where the towers stood, their relatives died on that spot and they view it as hallowed ground.
~ Muslims ALSO died on that spot, that they view as Hallowed Ground!
~ The Mosque will NOT be built AT the WTC site! It will be built blocks away from the World Trade Center.
Once again... This war is against Terrorists... not Islam.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
FAITH UNDER FIRE U.N. scheme to make Christians criminals Sharia-following Islamic nations demanding anti-'defamation' law Posted: July 10, 2008 12:00 am Eastern
Dozens of nations dominated by Islam are pressing the United Nations to adopt an anti-"defamation" plan that would make Christians criminals under international law, according to a United States organization that has launched a campaign to defend freedom of religion worldwide.
"Around the world, Christians are being increasingly targeted, and even persecuted, for their religious beliefs. Now, one of the largest organizations in the United Nations is pushing to make a bad situation even worse by promoting anti-Christian bigotry," the American Center for Law & Justice said yesterday in announcing its petition drive.
The discrimination is "wrapped in the guise of a U.N. resolution called 'Combating Defamation of Religions,'" the announcement said. "We must put an immediate end to this most recent, dangerous attack on faith that attempts to criminalize Christianity." The "anti-defamation" plan has been submitted to the U.N. repeatedly since about 1999, starting out as a plan to ban "defamation" of Islam and later changed to refer to "religions," officials said. It is being pushed by the 57-member Organization of the Islamic Conference nations, which has adopted the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights in Islam, "which states that all rights are subject to sharia law, and makes sharia law the only source of reference for human rights."
The ACLJ petition, which is to be delivered to the United Nations High Commissioner on Human Rights, already had collected more than 23,000 names in just a brief online existence.
The ACLJ's European division, the European Center for Law & Justice, also has launched its work on the issue. It submitted arguments last month to the U.N. in opposition to the proposal to institute sharia-based standards around the globe.
"The position of the ECLJ in regards to the issue of 'defamation of religion' resolutions, as they have been introduced at the U.N. Human Rights Council and General Assembly, is that they are in direct violation of international law concerning the rights to freedom of religion and expression," the organization's brief said.
"The 'defamation of religion' resolutions establish as the primary focus and concern the protection of ideas and religions generally, rather than protecting the rights of individuals to practice their religion, which is the chief purpose of international religious freedom law."
"Furthermore, 'defamation of religion' replaces the existing objective criterion of limitations on speech where there is an intent to incite hatred or violence against religious believers with a subjective criterion that considers whether the religion or its believers feel offended by the speech," the group continued.
Interestingly, in nations following Islam, the present practice is to use such laws to protect Islam and to attack religious minorities with penalties up to and including execution, the brief noted.
"What should be most disconcerting to the international community is that laws based on the concept of 'defamation of religion' actually help to create a climate of violence," the argument explained.
For example, just two months ago an Afghanistan court following Islam sentenced to death a 23-year-old apprentice journalist who had downloaded an article from an Iranian website and brought it to his class, the ECLJ said. Other instances include:
Award-winning author Mark Steyn has been summoned to appear before two Canadian Human Rights Commissions of vague allegations of "subject[ing] Canadian Muslims to hatred and contempt" for comments in his book, "America Alone," the group said.
In Pakistan, 15 people were accused of blasphemy against Islam during the first four months of 2008, the organization said.
Another Pakistani man sentenced to life in prison for desecrating the Quran was jailed for six years before being acquitted of the charge.
In Saudi Arabia a teacher was sentenced to three years in prison plus 300 lashes "for expressing his views in a classroom."
In the United Kingdom, police announced plans to arrest a blogger for "anti-Muslim" statements.
In the United States, a plaintiff sued his Internet service provider for refusing "to prevent participants in an online chat room from posting or submitting harassing comments that blasphemed and defamed plaintiff's Islamic religion." The ECLJ said, "The implementation of domestic laws to combat defamation of religion in many OIC countries reveals a selective and arbitrary enforcement toward religious minorities, who are often Christians. Those violations are frequently punishable by the death penalty."
The newest "anti-defamation" plan was submitted in March. It specifically cites a declaration "adopted by the Islamic Conference of Foreign Ministers" at a meeting in Islamabad "which condemned the growing trend of Islamophobia and systematic discrimination against adherents of Islam."
It also cites the dictates from the OIC meeting in Dakar, "in which the Organization expressed concern at the systematically negative stereotyping of Muslims and Islam and other divine religions."
It goes on to cite a wide range of other practices that "target" Islam, but does not mention any other religions, and urges all nations to provide "adequate protection against acts of hatred, discrimination, intimidation and coercion resulting from the defamation of any religion."
According to published reports, the U.N. Commission on Human Rights' 53 members voted to adopt the resolution earlier this year, with opposition from the United States and the European Union.
At the time, Cuba's delegate, Rodolfo Reyes Rodriguez, said: "Islam has been the subject of very deep campaign of defamation."...............http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=69163
New Yorkers fight three new mosques Project planned near ground zero
STANDING THEIR GROUND: Protesters object to proposed construction of a mosque near ground zero. Three separate plans to build mosques in the city are being met with anger. (Associated Press)
Holy wars are breaking out all over New York.
Three separate plans to build Muslim worship centers in New York City have proved more difficult and contentious than expected, igniting protests by local residents and anti-jihad activists and prompting charges of "Islamophobia" and bigotry.
The three projects raise different sets of issues, are set in three different boroughs and are still in the planning stages.
But together, they show that building a mosque in New York is not like building a pizza parlor — whether it's logistical concerns about neighborhood traffic and changing demographics, the sanctity of the World Trade Center site, or backyard politics.
New Yorkers have not been shy about their opposition, and a recent poll on the most contentious of the three projects — involving a Muslim center just two blocks from the site of the Sept. 11 terrorist attack — shows residents stoutly opposed..................................>>>>..............>>>>...............http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jul/6/plans-mosques-divide-new-yorkers/
House of God? Ummm... That depends on who's "God". MY GOD is acceptable... anyone else's God... Probably NOT!
The Christian Right, who's real aim is to INFLICT their religion on the rest of America, is hard at work on this issue. BIGOTS!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
House of God? Ummm... That depends on who's "God". MY GOD is acceptable... anyone else's God... Probably NOT!
The Christian Right, who's real aim is to INFLICT their religion on the rest of America, is hard at work on this issue. BIGOTS!
Last I knew....strippers, porn parlor owners or customers, or pizza shop owners or customers are not hell bent on destroying america. Muslims on the other hand are and the world trade center was just one HUGE example of that. It doesn't take a whole lot of brains to figure that one out!! This has nothing to do with the Christian Right! It has to do exclusively with FACT! IMHO
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Rox likes proposing straw men so he can knock them down. No one is proposing a strip club on the sacred ground containing the remains of thousands murdered by Muslim fanatics on 9/11. A Muslim "leader" who wants separate courts for Muslims has a plan. This mosque will never be built on the sacred ground of those murdered by Muslim fanatics. There are plenty of nearby mosques for the Muslims in the area.
Love how he throws Hindu's in the mix. Unlike you, Hindu's know the murderous history of the alleged "religion of peace". There's a reason there is a sword is on the Saudi flag. I suggest Rox and his amen corner of one attempt to pray in Saudi Arabia. Then you will see how peaceful and accepting these Muslim fanatics really are.
Your view of Muslims is very telling: "Muslims (hell bent on destroying America) on the other hand are and the world trade center was just one HUGE example of that."
Bumble's plan to eliminate the threat is to kill ALL MUSLIMS! Not the terrorists... not the guilty... not those who promote hate toward the USA... Bumbles plan is to kill little 3 year old Muslim girls, because they are hell bent on destroying America! DUHHHH!
Maybe the problem is one of perception... What percentage of Muslims do you consider to be a threat to the USA??? 5%? 3%? 1/2 of 1%?
As long as the Radical Christian Right puts the focus on "ALL MUSLIMS", instead of on the actual terrorists, this disaster will continue. The same thinking arrested little Japanese-American 3 year old girls and put them in detention camps after Pearl Harbor.
To focus on "Muslims" instead of "terrorists" is counterproductive and will cost more American lives.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Benny There is NO STRIP CLUB, or NO MOSQUE proposed to be built on the "SACRED GROUNDS" of the WTC.
A few blocks away from the WTC there is an approved plan to build a Mosque, partly in memory of those Muslims who were murdered along with the Christians and people of all faiths in the WTC on Sept 11th.
And Benny... speaking of "straw men"... ~ "I suggest Rox and his amen corner of one attempt to pray in Saudi Arabia." ~
Unlike Saudi Arabia, the USA has RELIGIOUS FREEDOM... (See the first amendment)
Although your view of RELIGIOUS FREEDOM seems to come with a BAN on one particular religion. Not exactly freedom when a bunch of Radical Christians can deny a church of another religion. (Again, see the first amendment)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
We the people have a few freedoms left but every day we lose a few more with these control freaks in Washington passing laws that the majority of people don't want or need. The progressive liberals have no trouble restricting the Christians freedoms but when it comes to Muslims they should be able to do what they want, can you say hypocrites.
The progressive liberals have no trouble restricting the "Christians freedoms"
Tell me Shadow, what Christian Freedoms are being restricted???
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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Rox likes proposing straw men so he can knock them down. No one is proposing a strip club on the sacred ground containing the remains of thousands murdered by Muslim fanatics on 9/11. A Muslim "leader" who wants separate courts for Muslims has a plan. This mosque will never be built on the sacred ground of those murdered by Muslim fanatics. There are plenty of nearby mosques for the Muslims in the area. 
