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GrahamBonnet
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Actually half way houses are instrumental in prevention of repeat offenders.  These are people that served their required time and were paroled to a half way house to start back into society...  


I think that is a crock. Prove that these places are instrumental in any way in prevention of repeat offenders, please. Where is your supporting data? Do you have some study presented by the same bureaucracy that benefits and grows by the use of taxpayer funds wasted by these programs? When DCJS has a study it is like a study by Phillip Morris telling us cigarettes are good for you.

I am not interested in criminals and how well off they are, I am interested in them being punished. Stop sucking the taxpayers' blood or there will be no more tax payers left here.



"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Bring them to schenectady county where they can ease back into society by selling drugs, robbing homes/businesses and prostitution. Cause that's about the only jobs they're gonna find here!

What will the government do, offer tax incentives to hire the x-cons? Hell, they tried that for welfare recipients and look at how successful that turned out!

So the property will be costing the taxpayers by losing a tax base to a non profit, paying for their facility and supporters with our tax dollar, and they will be added to the welfare roll! And this will all be done in an area that has the highest tax burden in the country and no jobs!

BRILLIANT!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Actually half way houses are instrumental in prevention of repeat offenders.  These are people that served their required time and were paroled to a half way house to start back into society.  Are you worried they will rob Adult world?  

And what is the problem with the Sync rezoning?  You made it about the tax rolls then mentioned Sync....which pays taxes on the property.  


ARE YOU CRAZY!!!  No, let me rephrase that -- YOU ARE CRAZY!!  Sync is a perfect example of how EVERYTHING this TB does is WRONG!!!!!  If you knew anything about the whole sync thing you wouldn't even be asking what was wrong with it.  Oh & btw, we are facing legal action because of sync (you better open up your purse, cause its gonna cost you $ too).
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BT what about the sex offenders living at the Stardust?  Rotterdam has lots of people who struggle to live their lives in a law-biding way.  The question referring to whether or not B Gage was a cop is that it seems cops have less of an ability to be patient with those who have previously offended.
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Cops have seen the worst that the world has to offer in the form of a humane being also the CO's who have to deal with those in prison every day. Unless you've had the chance to spend some time in a correctional facility you'll never understand what it's like and what those who are sent there are really like. Most are masters of the con job.
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Wow this is amazing. Having a discussion about whether Rotterdam, NY "a nice place to live" should be a haven for convicted sex offenders. Can you all see the county dems infiltrating our town now that these buffoons are running the show. I should say taking their orders from them.
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Oh I see how you play it boomer.....as long as there is one segment of our deviant society in town, why not let them all in, huh? I'm sure, if it is true, the sex offenders is what keeps stardust afloat .....with our tax dollars!


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boomer
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Look Basil--the sex offenders were there when ST was running the show.  Don't blame this TB.  
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And now the purple dusk of twilight time steals upon the perverts in that inn, high up in the clouds the politicians climb, always reminding me they're not in jail...I wander Curry road and far away, leaving me wondering why they don't die, jailbirds at the Stardust, just yesterday, the heinous perverts of time gone by..


...Stardust Inn is in Colonie....Rotterdam doesn't control that spot but they DO control that stretch of Chrisler Ave.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Mark your calenders june 29th - REMS VOTE

Lets save the town some money!! and have the vote right here.  Hey Admin set up another poll!!

I could get a kid to whip up an online vote, log in with your tax code, one vote per house - cost: some red bull and maybe a new video game

all seriousness though - these resolutions are just to establish the district? then we would vote in nov. for a tax on that district?


155.10 Adopt a Resolution establishing Rotterdam Ambulance Service District No. 1 in the
Town of Rotterdam, New York pursuant to Article 12A of the Town Law State of New
York.

156.10 Pursuant to Section 94 of the Town Law State of New York, the Town Board moves to
submit for the approval of the electors the adoption of Rotterdam Ambulance Service
District No. 1 in the Town of Rotterdam, New York, as outlined in Resolution 155.10.

157.10 Schedule a referendum, as outlined in Resolutions 155.10 and 156.10, to be conducted
at a special election for approval by the qualified voters of the proposed district to be
held at the John F. Kirvin Government Center, 1100 Sunrise Boulevard, Rotterdam,
New York on June 29, 2010 between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m.
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Quoted from GrahamBonnet


...Stardust Inn is in Colonie....Rotterdam doesn't control that spot but they DO control that stretch of Chrisler Ave.


Thank you for clarifying this for us!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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B GAGE
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He can't. He didn't get the contract.  What's your problem?  Are you tied to the police force?


First of all Boomer if you are going to ask me stupid questions then grow a set and give your real name.Second of all i am a Rotterdam Taxpayer.What would being tied to the police force have to do with it!! So there has to be a problem because i am against this....
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  The question referring to whether or not B Gage was a cop is that it seems cops have less of an ability to be patient with those who have previously offended.

How the hell would you know anything about this....and no i am not a cop.
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Good for you BG


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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again please excuse spelling and statements are paraphrased

5 min of 7pm  only two board members and the supervisor
Mr parisi arrives just after the pledge

Niki had a operation and will be out for 5-6 weeks per FDG

Boy Scouts are in the last row of the gallery

Student govt day announced


Reminder the 5-12-10 meeting is at the rotterdam junction fire house

privilege of the floor - no speakers

Frank gets his glasses

Michele Golden as deputy of vitals and as a Marriage officer
pass

Arthur DeLucia as temp member of assessment review board
pass

Privilege of the floor
Jason colwell - zoning at 1921 is the issue

The street is not lit and there are no cross walks no sidewalks no lighting and the trains
Also the speed is posted 30 mph but the avg is more like 40
Chaple and chrisler - acceident once. A mont
41000 cars a day pass this area
A school is 3 tenths a mile away
It is a DOT road
this is not a residential area
One of my tech saw a news crew at 1921 that is how i found out about this request
This is a gateway street
Also a petion was supplied

Maurine ????
Has 203 signatures of those who oppose

Damien Demonata
Lives 2 blocks from 1921
Rotterdam a great place
$25- for water
I ask Would you put this in your back yard?
I oversee 1500 youth and 600 volunteers
Will this create synergy????
We are endagering the welfare of our children!!!!!

Ron severson
152.10 opposed
No multi family residence
Does not like federal offenders and it will effect the montplesent area

Robert vanatten
missed this comment


Peter andrew- speaking on 1921 chrisler -do not rezone
30 year resident
My concern
Safety of my family
Police have a hard time policing the RR tracks
My ability to economicly remain in this town
This increases the economic burden on the residents

Kim ruhr - speaking on 1921 chrisler
Ditto what peter said
Safety is a concern
Little league isaroundthecorner
Policing of the RR tracks

Ken meyers chrisler business owner
All locally owned tax paying business
Why would you let an out of town non profitt degrade our business and homeowners

Berrie N
Has a property on chaple st
Jay is dead on

Brian Mcgarry
157.10 - REM's was outstanding for his one son
And a positive comment from albany med about REMs
I agree to a town wide referendom but REMS needs more time get back on their feet
When the govt takes away or money in taxes govt takes away our freedom
Govt costs are always rising
REMS is subsudised and he approves the town board questioning REMS yearly
June 29- why this date in the vacation season

Coleen surilla
Lifelong town resident
- attorney for Firetree
Firetree will make payments inlu of taxes
The safety issues are less then you imagine
There is an adult store within 1 mile
Of this location
Please give firetree a chance

Ed cox- consultant for Firetree- past executive
Met with town supervisior and a town board member
to discribed the firetree process

Issues were raised were emotional and I am note going to change your mind

Our organization is about getting past offenders back into society
Our facility are  accross the street from SU and point preeze in philly
I understand your concerns

Kevin march
Please vote no on 152.10
Hamburg street is trying to come back
Coldbrook is having crime issues
Let's put the REMS vote out to the townspeople to raise taxes
Let's keep rotterdam a nice place to live

Joe Vanderwerker
John Dibas
Joe
Thank you for picking up the pieces of our project
Payroll is seperate from the taxing district
Payroll comes from billing
All debts are in payment plans or paid
The money will be used for equipment
We encourage audits

John
"We are in this to serve the residents"
The board is a volunteer board
Once there is a taxing dist you will elect the board
We are non profit
Non of the past problems were caused by the past board
"If we go away we are gone forever"

kyle carney
Will the board take a official position?
Mis-undrstanding on REMS
Godlewski - we will continue what the past admin started not start over

Mr samanski
Why do we need to move so fast???on the tax district
Let's see what REMS can do

Mike gabiel
There is a lot of talk on zoning changes
I thought zoning laws were implemented to protect the residents of a zoned area

Ron severson
REMS - you want the vote in june to assist in budget planning
B Godlewski- that is one of the issues



152.10
Refer to the planning commission the zone change of 1921 Chrisler
Fails


153.10
Town as lead agency for SEQR 1066 curry
Passes

154.10
Public hearing on 1066 curry from r-1 and r-2 to r-3
Passes

155.10
Establish ambulance service dist no.1
Mike Godlewski-typo 232,xxx.xx should read 10 cents per 1000 rate
The will only voting location!!!!!!!!!
Adding a rotterdam jct voting location would be 10,000-15,000!!!!!!
Mr parisi states he was paid by rems and asks if he can vote
Answer is yes no issues
Passes

156.10
Submit the ambulance dist to the voters
Passes

157.10
Schedule a referendum for 6-29-10 on the ambulance dist at town hall
8am to 8pm
Passes

158.10
Authorize summer hours 8am to 4am wait.... 4pm -june,july,august
Mr Godlewski- said in the past it has been july august
Mr Martin - you may see energy savings
Passes

159.10
Accept grant for the 5 corners land use and transport study
Passes

160.10
Move $7800 from one park acct to another park acct
Pass

Concent items
Pass

Discussion items
Rotterdam rezone reform act of 2010
Bob G- I hate to be first, Some good thoughts but I would like to digest this and compare with other communities
Matt Martin- I have markups to show you
Parisi - can we agree to table this

Commettie
Budget and tax commitee B Godlewski
We will hand out budget paperwork
Board members being handed their personal budgets- all dept heads will be asked take a serious look at their numbers

Matt Martin
Clean sweep 15 cubic yards of garbage- thanks to all who came
Pack 54
Barrie
Fisher
Severenson



Matt's Senior Moment
Prom tickets
Lyliac festr may 24

Frank - junction park
Everyone is all aboard
Just some lawyer language needs to be completed

Public comment
Ron severson - available for a date
Card party - I lost so i have nothing to help reduce the town tax burden
Thanks to all for the work on the leg gazette
Thank Diane Marco for her work at the senior ctr
Thank Tony Severa for senior kitchen
Wostina park - challengers will have opening day May 2nd

Mr. Samanski
The new park is a good idea
REMS- how do you get the ten cent number
Assessing by your house doesn't seem fair
25 dollars for water but $400+$500 for the pipes
Please look at how water is paid for

Tracey donovan
Do we have acess to absentee ballots
FDG-yes

Done.


Talking to each other is better than talking about each other
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