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bumblethru
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You can't file a FOIL for HIPAA protected documents, sorry.


I'm in agreement with ya here...BUT.....how protected can these document be? I mean these handicapped tags are right in view in your car windshield, with your license plates, with you in the car, pulling in and out of YOUR driveway and parking in a handicapped parking space. I don't think it's a big hidden secret goin' on here.

Listen, this whole 'handicapped thing' is government created. They put the laws in place. They decides who hands them out. The minute the government took the responsibility of issuing these tags......it is open to the public.

Like I said before.....take it up with your government officials.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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boomer
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Mobile is correct again.  You cannot foil for ANYTHING with medical implications because it is protected by HIPAA.  Bumbler how come you don't know that?  Mobile are you a lawyer or just smart?
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boomer
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Bumbler-the tag doesn't have any info on it except exp. date and town where the tag was originated.  The tag doesn't have a space that might say "CONGESTIVE HEART FAILURE" "CRIPPLED" "COPD" it just states place and date of exp.
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Bumbler-the tag doesn't have any info on it except exp. date and town where the tag was originated.  The tag doesn't have a space that might say "CONGESTIVE HEART FAILURE" "CRIPPLED" "COPD" it just states place and date of exp.


You beat me to that.

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Mobile is correct again.  You cannot foil for ANYTHING with medical implications because it is protected by HIPAA.  Bumbler how come you don't know that?  Mobile are you a lawyer or just smart?


Not a lawyer, and not smart all the time - this is just a sensitive issue for me.
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It would be hard to foil anything with medical information the HIPAA laws are tough, but let us not forget that the tags in question were supposedly issued (I only know that it has been said anyway) without a doctor signature or rx, or whatever is required, so there doesn't appear to be any medical records to see........I'm just say'n
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The handicap tag is very helpful to those whose health is compromised AND it is helpful to those who are the caretaker.  Especially for those who are caretakers--they are a special breed who is called to that service.   Bumbler if you ever had to care for someone who is ill or you yourself needed a tag even temporarily, you would be very grateful.
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Mobile-if this is a sensitive issue for you, I will not continue to comment.  I apologize for my part if
this has made you feel uncomfortable or has upset you in some way.  I will not prolong the conversation.  I think it is exhausted anyway.  Sorry--
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It's HIPAA - Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act., not HIPPA.

The medical professionals are the ones authorizing and certifying that there's a need for these ... they're passing the responsibility to an elected town clerk, with Notary privileges, who is the registrar for the town.

In fact, the medical documentation for permits IS covered under HIPAA ... therein lies the point. Who, and more importantly, HOW was this information determined? Assuming the OP went thru ALL current permits to see if there was a medical certification/dr signature, then that person compromised the integrity of the medical confidentiality.  Bottom line, some level of medical information was released. I want to know how, why and by whom.




The first step to 'protected national healthcare' which actually IS an oxymoron.....you WILL be valuated......be wary about HIPPA
and what it actually stands for.....the mind wash for a half of generation to be able to remotely accept Government papa/mama....

stones are laid on the path....pay attention......it will be used to move you/buy you/lie to you/etc.........

be very careful to whom or what you give your 'security' away to........


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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I second truthontaxes. There was supposedly NO medical info accompanying these tags - that's the issue! Besides, foiling for redacted applications and foiling for medical documentation are two completely different things.  There's no reason why applications with names, addresses, dates of application, etc. couldn't be foiled.  
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So what is the deal? Can anyone get these by just requesting one? What does the law say? What is the procedure? Are these records public or are they protected by some privacy law? Someone help us out.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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I second truthontaxes. There was supposedly NO medical info accompanying these tags - that's the issue! Besides, foiling for redacted applications and foiling for medical documentation are two completely different things.  There's no reason why applications with names, addresses, dates of application, etc. couldn't be foiled.  


The point is - how were they separated?  They had to put them in a pile - say these had med certification/dr signature, these don't - in order to cull that list.
Certainly no computer database (even if it DID exist in EE's office) had them segregated that way.
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whoever pulls the strings on medical care, controls the doctors. Whoever controls the doctors controls the lives. GET OUT OF MY CESS POOL!


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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The handicap tag is very helpful to those whose health is compromised AND it is helpful to those who are the caretaker.  Especially for those who are caretakers--they are a special breed who is called to that service.   Bumbler if you ever had to care for someone who is ill or you yourself needed a tag even temporarily, you would be very grateful.


Ally aka Deb, are you that dumb or can't you comprehend? I mean really!! Get off your liberal soap box and 'read s-l-o-w-l-y! K?

First I NEVER said I disagreed. K?
My POINT was that this is a government created service. K?
For anyone who has any questions about FOILING for this information, ASK YOUR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS. K?

And don't EVER imply or assume that 'I' or a 'loved one' never had to use a 'tag'. Temporarily or permanently. K?

You clearly don't know what the hell you are rambling about! You are clueless!! You are so far to the left.....you can't see or hear or read straight!!! Got it?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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boomer
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Look Bumbler--and it is VERY clear you don't know who you are talking to--what do you think Deb is the only liberal in Rotterdam?  How small is your world?  Also name-calling is not necessary.  That just weakens your posts--not that they need much help.  Didn't they teach you that in law school?

Also we are tired of you trying to "out" everyone.  So far Deb is Cal, Mrs. beasley?, ally, peeper,--lol.  Then DM is all the same people.  You should try getting a real job-- so you can stop playing the Mertz version of "To tell the Truth."

Your post clearly indicates that you can't wrap your head around what that tag does for someone and the help it gives the caretaker if one is necessary.  You are so venomous that you just want to see EE go down in flames because you did.  Why not try to re-invent yourself--maybe you could try to be a person of substance!
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