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This is too cute......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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What R U talking about, embryos?  I thought I was clear I was talking about fetuses.  What does obsessing about embryos and ignoring needs of real children mean?  Are fetus's not real children to you? I wasn't aware that the right to take a life was a spiritual decision.  

To kill or not to kill a human being isn't a liberal or conservative issue.  Murder isn't ideological.  It's either right or wrong, and punishable or not punishable by law.




so if I/you were hungry and there was the last piece of food to be had either you would kill me or I would kill you.....this is without other environmental/social influences

if a person/couple is pregnant and can barely feed themselves what do you think they should do.....and this decision requires ALOT of weighing....I have left out the
guts of the outline, it would take hours to type......that is how intricate we are.....


1. give it up for adoption in this brave new safe world
2. leave it at a 'safe spot' again sending it to nowhere
3. keep it
4. abort it

the choice was always before the conception.....and that was between 2 people.....  





...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Because it is rumored all over the county for the last few days that GP will primary GA for the seat.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Peter G is a "white guy."  Look closely at the first photo...all the way to the left.  That looks like either Jim Tedisco, or Peter G.  My money's on Peter.  Wonder what he was doing there?
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so if I/you were hungry and there was the last piece of food to be had either you would kill me or I would kill you.....this is without other environmental/social influences


Elective abortion isn't a decision of life or death for the mother or the unborn child.  Especially in America.  We have advanced medicine and plenty of food for everybody.

You are still dodging the question.  Is a fetuses rights to LIFE - LIBERTY - AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS  protected by the Constitution YES or NO


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That looks like either Jim Tedisco, or Peter G.  My money's on Peter.  Wonder what he was doing there?


It's definitely Peter!

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Elective abortion isn't a decision of life or death for the mother or the unborn child.  Especially in America.  We have advanced medicine and plenty of food for everybody.

You are still dodging the question.  Is a fetuses rights to LIFE - LIBERTY - AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS  protected by the Constitution YES or NO


Absolutely NOT -The  government cant intervene in women’s personal medical decisions. It is not possible to ban abortion.  What makes us think we can prohibit women who are not visibly pregnant from obtaining a medical procedure in a private place? What kind of police state tactics would be necessary to achieve such a result? What would be the effect on unleashing that amount of intrusive government power on our society ?  Come on Cicero your not thinking this all the way through-



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can the fetus vote?....can an illegal immigrant vote?.....

life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is given to the citizen.....

a citizen of the US has to be BORN in the US.......

is US soil also the woman's womb where the sperm and ovum cavort????

the government does not belong there.....legal or illegal....it's not a conversation needed in the constitution......people will ALWAYS find what they want and buy it......trade will ALWAYS happen...

the foundation has been neglected by the foundation builders(church/family).....the government cannot and should not be raised up as the savior.....that is what got England in trouble....
you would think this would be a no-brainer in the US since we dont have 'blue bloods' and thrones to deal with(in a sense anyhow)......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Elective abortion isn't a decision of life or death for the mother or the unborn child.  Especially in America.  We have advanced medicine and plenty of food for everybody.

You are still dodging the question.  Is a fetuses rights to LIFE - LIBERTY - AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS  protected by the Constitution YES or NO


BTW who is going to adopt a crack addicted baby or any baby for that matter----not me.....I wasn't concerned about the food/medicine....I was concerned about the
raising of the baby......I know about our physical resources but, raising a human being (let's stop calling it baby,fetus,zygote etc) is where the weighing of oneself
comes in handy......

I made a conscious discerning decision with my significant other to have a family.....my will was in it.........for the LONG HAUL......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Because it is rumored all over the county for the last few days that GP will primary GA for the seat.



ain't that cute---school buds.....2years apart though...not that that matters in Podunk rotterdam.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Absolutely NOT -The  government cant intervene in women’s personal medical decisions. It is not possible to ban abortion.  What makes us think we can prohibit women who are not visibly pregnant from obtaining a medical procedure in a private place? What kind of police state tactics would be necessary to achieve such a result? What would be the effect on unleashing that amount of intrusive government power on our society ?  Come on Cicero your not thinking this all the way through-



Thank You!!  At least you have taken a position.  Though I disagree with it, at least a position has been taken.  Though it is unfortunate that you fail to mention the effect the decision to abort has on the fetus.  

We don't need intrusive government.  We can start with an education system teaching children the horrific truth about abortion instead of sugar coating it and telling teenaged girls it's their "right" to have one.  

Pro choice people can't tell young girls the gruesome facts about abortion, because if people knew what an abortion actually is, Roe Vs Wade would be overturned.  The fetus has to be dehumanized in order to stomach it.




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BTW who is going to adopt a crack addicted baby or any baby for that matter


I would. I would do just that, senders. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Hell, they should see all the pictures.....but, FIRST they(BOYS AND GIRLS TOGETHER) need to be taught the about the choice to have sex that leads to the decision of what to do about baby that leads to
discernment and changing of "the will" of BOTH of them....without society stereo types......so who is responsible for that???? I'm sure everyone on this board is all about raising their daughters/sons
children, albeit grandchildren because their own kids were left without the ability to discern and make a decision about choices in their lives.......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I would. I would do just that, senders. You should be ashamed of yourself.



I know I couldn't.....and I have to look in the mirror everyday at myself knowing what I can and cannot do....doesn't everyone do that?.....I am a nurse because that is
what I know and am wired to do....I am not a plumber because I was not wired that way.....same with adopting kids......will I donate to feed/house/clothe---OF COURSE.....

I am NOT ashamed because I know who I am and what I can do and my shortcomings and my strengths.....that is what religion is......the government does not
belong in the valuation of humans business.......

however, I commend you on your strengths in this area of life.....kudos to you....and I dont mean that in a joking way....I'm serious.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Hell, they should see all the pictures.....but, FIRST they(BOYS AND GIRLS TOGETHER) need to be taught the about the choice to have sex th


WAIT!  Boys do not have a CHOICE of whether to have the child or not.  So, after the seed is planted, the boy has no rights to the life he helped create.  If she wants it and he doesn't - man has no say.   If he wants it and she doesn't -  man has no say.  So men actually have NO reproductive rights.   



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