Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
Schenectady Should Hire 15 More Police
Rotterdam NY...the people's voice    Rotterdam's Virtual Internet Community    Outside Rotterdam  ›  Schenectady Should Hire 15 More Police Moderators: Admin
Users Browsing Forum
Googlebot and 104 Guests

Schenectady Should Hire 15 More Police  This thread currently has 1,284 views. |
2 Pages 1 2 » Recommend Thread
Admin
July 28, 2009, 4:18am Report to Moderator
Board Moderator
Posts
18,484
Reputation
64.00%
Reputation Score
+16 / -9
Time Online
769 days 23 minutes
Quoted Text
Schenectady urged to hire 10-15 more police
Response time would improve, councilman says

Tuesday, July 28, 2009
By Kathleen Moore (Contact)
Gazette Reporter

SCHENECTADY — The police response time could fall to two minutes or less if the city hires another 10 to 15 police officers, Councilman Gary McCarthy told his colleagues at Monday’s City Council meeting.
He urged them to add the officers to the 2010 budget, at a potential cost of $1 million, including benefits.
“Show the public we’re serious about solving this problem,” he said. “It’s taken me a long time to come around to this … but unless we bite the bullet and spend that money and act in a way that makes a dramatic change in the community, nothing else we do will have the effect we want.”
He argued that the city could use a COPS grant to cover the first three years of the officers’ salaries and benefits. The grant requires municipalities to pay for the officers in their fourth year. McCarthy said that by that time, the officers would “easily” pay for themselves in additional tickets written and fines collected.
McCarthy has analyzed the city’s 911 calls and used them to determine how many officers would be needed to answer every serious call within two minutes, assuming each call would keep them busy for 45 minutes. He then factored in vacations, sick time and other leave.
The analysis proved to him that the department is understaffed, he said.
Mayor Brian U. Stratton said the department may need more officers — but that he won’t support hiring them until the police union agrees to a new labor contract that would allow him to get the “maximum use” out of the new officers.
“It would require, probably, some more police officers,” he said of McCarthy’s two-minute response time goal. “But it’s also going to require some changes. We want to ensure we have a contract that makes sure our dollars are well-spent. We want to get maximum use.”
The department is also struggling from vacancies due to alleged police misconduct. Seven officers are on paid suspension and face termination hearings that may start in August.
And Councilwoman Denise Brucker noted that other officers are leaving the department in droves — making it difficult for the city to train replacements quickly enough.
The city just sent nine officers to the police academy, but 25 officers will retire before those new hires are fully trained....................>>>>...............>>>>.............http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2009/jul/28/0728_morecops/
Logged
Private Message
Shadow
July 28, 2009, 6:26am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
11,107
Reputation
70.83%
Reputation Score
+17 / -7
Time Online
448 days 17 minutes
After paying some of the highest taxes in the country, the City Council wants to hire 10 to 15 more police and pay their salaries by issuing tickets to the residents who barely have enough money left to live on after paying their taxes. Why do these people keep getting re-elected when all they do is come up with new ways to take more of your money?  
Logged
Private Message Reply: 1 - 23
Salvatore
July 28, 2009, 1:06pm Report to Moderator
Guest User
this here is the minimum
Logged
E-mail Reply: 2 - 23
benny salami
July 28, 2009, 1:44pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
8,861
Reputation
68.97%
Reputation Score
+20 / -9
Time Online
132 days 23 hours 49 minutes
Why do the KRATS get re-elected? When their is no opponent it's harder to chase them out.

     Gary McCarthy is the worst of the City Council rubber stamps. The City gets a $1.8 million grant and before it is received he wants to spend $5 million. God forbid the money is used to reduce record KRAT tax rates and spending. No wonder businesses and residents are fleeing "over there" in droves.
Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 3 - 23
Salvatore
July 28, 2009, 2:46pm Report to Moderator
Guest User
he is a good man and the next seanator to clean things up over there
Logged
E-mail Reply: 4 - 23
benny salami
July 28, 2009, 3:25pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
8,861
Reputation
68.97%
Reputation Score
+20 / -9
Time Online
132 days 23 hours 49 minutes
Senator? ROTFLMAO!!

     DEM "Leader" Scary Gary ran for State Senate a few years ago. He couldn't even win Schenectady County. Spent most of the time hiding from the voters. State Senator is not like City Council where any moron on the KRAT line even if they just unpacked can get elected.
Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 5 - 23
Admin
July 28, 2009, 7:09pm Report to Moderator
Board Moderator
Posts
18,484
Reputation
64.00%
Reputation Score
+16 / -9
Time Online
769 days 23 minutes
Quoted Text
Schenectady eligible for $1.8M grant to hire 8 cops, but mayor wants contract concessions, cost analysis
Tuesday, July 28, 2009
By Kathleen Moore (Contact)
Gazette Reporter

SCHENECTADY — The White House announced today that it will give Schenectady a $1.8 million grant to hire eight police officers.
But the City Council applied for the grant reluctantly in April and may not accept it. Mayor Brian U. Stratton said Monday that he wants labor contract concessions before he hires any additional officers.
Reached today, he said he might support the grant — but only if he’s sure the city could afford to pay the additional officers three years from now when the grant runs out.
“I’m very concerned about the long-term cost,” he said, adding that his staff will do a financial analysis and present it to the City Council.
“I want a thorough analysis,” he said. “I’m not saying no — I’m being very cautious.”
Councilman Mark Blanchfield, the most vocal opponent to the grant on the council, agreed with Stratton. While he wants the ongoing contract negotiations to lead to major reforms, he said he would be willing to hire officers without first finishing the negotiations...........>>>>...........>>>>>...........http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2009/jul/28/0728_cops/
Logged
Private Message Reply: 6 - 23
senders
July 28, 2009, 7:46pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
29,348
Reputation
70.97%
Reputation Score
+22 / -9
Time Online
1574 days 2 hours 22 minutes
Aren't there police 'scabs'??????


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 7 - 23
bumblethru
July 28, 2009, 7:47pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
30,841
Reputation
78.26%
Reputation Score
+36 / -10
Time Online
412 days 18 hours 59 minutes
Now I guess the ball rests in the boys in blue's court! NEXT MOVE?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
Logged
Private Message Reply: 8 - 23
MobileTerminal
July 29, 2009, 7:18am Report to Moderator
Guest User
Quoted Text
Schenectady might reject $1.86M
City considers turning down $1.86M because funds would dry up

By LAUREN STANFORTH, Staff writer
First published in print: Wednesday, July 29, 2009

SCHENECTADY -- Most municipalities would jump at the chance to get more than a million dollars.
     
But Schenectady is considering turning away $1.86 million in federal stimulus dollars announced Tuesday because the money -- which would have to be used to hire eight police officers -- would dry up in three years.

"The responsible thing to do is not hire the officers if you can't guarantee you can keep them," said Schenectady Mayor Brian U. Stratton. "It's not like we're refusing stimulus money. But there are strings attached and I want to make sure we're financially responsible."

Schenectady is one of 1,046 police departments nationwide, including Albany and Troy, that were approved to receive a total of $1 billion to hire or rehire 4,699 police officers.

The cities would have to promise to employ and pay for the officers' benefits and salaries in at least the fourth year and assign them to community-oriented programs.


http://timesunion.com/ASPStories/Story.asp?StoryID=825358
Logged
E-mail Reply: 9 - 23
Kevin March
July 29, 2009, 8:07pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
3,071
Reputation
83.33%
Reputation Score
+10 / -2
Time Online
88 days 15 hours 44 minutes
That might be enough to get Stratton voted out...thinking about the future?  No Democrat in their right mind thinks about the price of ANYTHING down the road.  If you get free money, just find a way to spend it...even if it's spending on something that's not needed...or on something that's needed that you can't pay for in the future.


Logged Offline
Site Private Message YIM Reply: 10 - 23
Admin
July 30, 2009, 4:30am Report to Moderator
Board Moderator
Posts
18,484
Reputation
64.00%
Reputation Score
+16 / -9
Time Online
769 days 23 minutes
Quoted Text
Editorial: Hiring more cops not the answer for Schenectady
Thursday, July 30, 2009

If hiring 10 to 15 more cops for the Schenectady police department really could cut response times by 80 percent, as City Councilman Gary McCarthy suggests, it would be worth the $1 million annual cost after a three-year federal grant ran out. But who is McCarthy trying to kid?
The problem with Schenectady’s police force isn’t so much that it lacks sufficient numbers; it’s getting the 166 already on the payroll to show up on a regular basis, then to do their jobs. But as almost any Schenectadian will tell you, neither has happened for years.
An overly generous contract gives the cops far too many opportunities for taking time off, and despite the burden it places on their fellow officers (to say nothing of the impact their chronic absenteeism has on crime) they take full advantage. A prime example is the time off for union business — 222 days last year — taken by PBA President Robert Hamilton.
Then there are the cops — seven currently — who are unavailable for service because of suspensions, having been accused of such things as driving drunk, leaving the scene of accidents, harassing their girlfriends, beating up prisoners, etc. And then there are those who take more time off than anyone in the private sector would ever dream of for legitimate reasons like dealing with a disability or grieving for a deceased spouse.
Even when they do show up, Schenectady’s finest aren’t always on the job. In recent years they’ve been observed doing everything from leaving the city to work out in health clubs, eat at restaurants or watch their kids bowl, to visiting the dentist to repeatedly disappearing inside a house for hours on end — all while on the clock.............>>>>..................>>>>.......................................http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2009/jul/30/730_prionts/
Logged
Private Message Reply: 11 - 23
Shadow
July 30, 2009, 6:48am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
11,107
Reputation
70.83%
Reputation Score
+17 / -7
Time Online
448 days 17 minutes
The police are doing the same thing we would do if we had a contract that allowed it, that's why the contract must be changed and a new one patterned after the private sector be put in place.
Logged
Private Message Reply: 12 - 23
bumblethru
July 30, 2009, 6:48pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
30,841
Reputation
78.26%
Reputation Score
+36 / -10
Time Online
412 days 18 hours 59 minutes
Perhaps the city wouldn't need 15 more IF the cops that were already on the payroll actually showed up for a full shift at work.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
Logged
Private Message Reply: 13 - 23
Admin
July 31, 2009, 4:35am Report to Moderator
Board Moderator
Posts
18,484
Reputation
64.00%
Reputation Score
+16 / -9
Time Online
769 days 23 minutes
Logged
Private Message Reply: 14 - 23
2 Pages 1 2 » Recommend Thread
|

Rotterdam NY...the people's voice    Rotterdam's Virtual Internet Community    Outside Rotterdam  ›  Schenectady Should Hire 15 More Police

Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread