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GrahamBonnet
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It was so concentrated, it was shaped into a brick (like DVOR's head.)


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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I see another dumb comment from a Regressive/Nattering Nabob of Negativity.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
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Kevin March
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Economic development requires a partnership between the government and the private sector.

Seeing as how you are a Republican ---- I cite Abraham Lincoln and his authoring the plan to build
a Transcontinental Railroad --- giving  large swaths of  taxpeyer-owned public lands to the railroads
and providing taxpayer funded  bonuses for completing the railroad

You could say that  Abraham Lincoln did for the railroads .. what Metroplex is doing for commercial
projects all throughout the county.


Economic development does NOT require a partnership between the government and the private sector, it only requires that the government get out of the way of the free market.  That's a major place where you and I disagree.

I am not a "Republican."  I am a "republican," who happens to be registered at the moment as a Conservative, changing over to the "Republican" party effective with the upcoming election.

If you want to see what happens when the government "helps," all you have to do is look at the time of the Great Depression (soon to be renamed the First Great Depression, once we're finished with this one, and this one will take the name of "The Great Depression."


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Quoted from Kevin March
Economic development does NOT require a partnership between the government and the private sector, it only requires that the government get out of the way of the free market.  That's a major place where you and I disagree.

I am not a "Republican."  I am a "republican," who happens to be registered at the moment as a Conservative, changing over to the "Republican" party effective with the upcoming election.

If you want to see what happens when the government "helps," all you have to do is look at the time of the Great Depression (soon to be renamed the First Great Depression, once we're finished with this one, and this one will take the name of "The Great Depression."


It is a historical fact ... that the US Government  HELPED the railroads   -- the help was provided by
virtue of the legislation that Abraham Lincoln drafted .. and sent to Congress .. and that Congress
approved .. and he signed into law.

Lincoln was a corporate lawyer for the Illinois Central Railroad  and one of the forerunners of the
Union Pacific railroad   BEFORE he was elected president ....   he did NOT believe as you seem to think
he did .. that the government should NOT be involved in economic development.   He embraced the
idea and got it put into law.

And -- I am not criticizing him for it -- because that was exactly what our nation needed then.  Similarly,
the county working through Metroplex to promote economic development is EXACTLY what we need now
and it has proven to be very successful so far.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
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Wasn't it Mayor Karen Johnson who ran GE out of town by increasing their taxes? Wasn't that a HUGE loss of jobs? It decimated our City and put hundreds out of work? If it hadn't been for the DEMS using taxes as a free flowing faucet, we might have kept GE. Downtown and Schenectady would never had fallen.

Now, you have Gillen and Stratton placing a HUGE Johnson-like burden on the taxpayers. Look at your history DEMS, over-taxing GE ..they left. Over-taxing families and the taxpayer.....they will leave. You will be left with slumlords and others who could care less about the City.  

DEMS created this mess, continue to ignore their past failures and are continuing on the slippery slope of destruction they began years ago.  

NO.....it's because GE didn't want to pay both the union and the government.....please where would our 401k/pensions be today
if they did??????


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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A huge improvement!-lol-The few private stores that generated minor sales income all where forced to flee. The taxpayer funded million dollar "portico" was ripped out only one year later. Death Ray said too many bums were hanging out there. Who else is Downtown? Shoppers?

     Death Ray slams in another nonprofit where the ice rink used to be. At least youth hockey drew people Downtown. Who wants a Y with no pool? Another taxpayer funded daycare center where private businesses used to be. Another total flop from the Metrograft morons. The architecture is totally incompatible with the streetscape and has been ripped by many architectural experts. Another example of "planners' with no educational credentials imposing their will on the taxpayers. At huge taxpayer with no jobs.
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Schenectady continues its renaissance while the Regressives and Nattering Nayboobs of Negativity cry
their eyes out because they are jealous that their own party could NOT deliver when it was in office.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
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McQueen
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I am hoping that the "curb tax" in downtown will be assessed correctly for the businesses there. Case in point, Center City. The new sidewalks, new stairs, new planters, new lighting, etc....is Proctors going to pay more than $4.00 for their share in curbs? DOT? What about the "new" downtown? Why would the Hermes Music store (which has some pretty crappy sidewalks) have to pay the same amount of curb tax as Bombers...who have brand-spanking new sidewalks?

Humm, seems like this "curb tax" is to pay for the millions poured into 10 business fronts downtown. I have REALLY bad sidewalks, crappy roads and wait for the snowplows during the winter. Actually, the City would owe ME money for their lack of upkeep in a "curb fee". The City owes lots of money to its residents.
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benny salami
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Deliver what? Higher taxes-60% increase in unemployment-tax breaks for connected developers-great accomplishments for the DEM working together idiots. The DEMS must start a curb tax because the nonprofits have exploded in the City. Many of the best houses in the GE Realty Plot have been taken off the tax rolls by Union College. Mayor SOS has totally failed to get any contributions from Union. So now he was to chase the churches and City Mission. This also shows what a joke the Cuomo/DEM plan to cap property taxes is. Every town will start new fees to escape the limitations.

     Its an absolute disgrace how the all DEM City Hall has destroyed Schenectady. I want to hear how it is positive when you cannot afford basic police and fire protection. Center City has been a white elephant since Day One. Ripping out the portico and chasing away small business does make a renaissance.
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"State Street" (aka Route 5) is a state highway .. technically.

Will it be exempt from this bull(rap tax?


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New York State Route 5 (NY 5) is a state highway that extends for 370.87 miles (596.86 km) across the state of New York in the United States. It begins at the Pennsylvania state line in the Chautauqua County town of Ripley and passes through Buffalo, Syracuse, Utica, Schenectady, and several other smaller cities and communities on its way to downtown Albany in Albany County, where it terminates at U.S. Route 9 (US 9)
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Although it is no longer commonly used for long distance travel, NY 5 is still regionally important. NY 5 is named Main Street in Buffalo, Erie Boulevard and West Genesee Street in Syracuse, State Street in Schenectady, and Central Avenue in Albany, the state capital. It is a major local road in many other locations along its path.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_State_Route_5
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benny salami
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Mayor SOS and the all DEM rubber stamps on the Council have fallen on their face. No one will pay this curb tax. This is more "fast work" from the finance department-lol. Another way to ripoff the City sheeple.

      Instead of looking at what Southern cities are doing right-these idiots duplicate Rochester murder capital of NYS. This has finally awoken the faith community who for too long let Rev Grisbey be the only voice. Mayor SOS looks like Henny Penny. The sky is falling-he is losing all his support-and he is totally clueless what to do about it.
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McQueen
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Now isn't that special! SO MT already found the loophole Mayor McCheese will use to let the downtown businesses avoid a curb tax....geez! I knew the City(and County) residents pay for the Plex, but the City taxpayer has to pay AGAIN for the new downtown sidewalks and improvements?! Put a fork in me, I'm burnt to a crisp.
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I dont KNOW if this will affect the "master plan".  AFAIK, the City of Schenectady plows the roads in winter (or gives it the old college try) - but if it's a state owned road and the state is responsible for, this could be another nail in the taxpayers coffin.

We shall see.

Anyone else hear $8/ft of roadway for the curb fee? - That makes a 30' frontage property another $240/year.
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Just got off the phone with a friend at the city - the city plows State St (NY Rt5) because of it's "unusual layout" - and the state plows can't navigate it because of the parking and it being narrow (with the parking areas, ha!), but otherwise, it is a state road.

Will this affect the curb fee? Dunno.

He also suggested the number is generally thought to be between $5-$8 per linear foot of frontage. A different formula is being prepared for properties with frontage on multiple streets (instance cited was McDonald's on State that has access on State AND Albany Sts.)
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Schenectady continues its renaissance while the Regressives and Nattering Nayboobs of Negativity cry
their eyes out because they are jealous that their own party could NOT deliver when it was in office.


Please explain.....

Is a renaissance of city the occurrence when taxes are inreased so much that the county becomes the 19th highest out of the whole country?

Tell us, is it a renaissance when crime increases?
Tell us, is it a renaissance when people leave the city in droves?
Tell us, is it a renassance when the vacancy rate of homes reaches an unprecedented 25%
Is a renaissance what happens when vital NECESSARY LIFE SAVING services are cut?
Tell us, is it a renassance when the graduation rate in the only school system falls to a meager 50%?

Most of all, dV, tell us, is it a renaissance in a city when those in power make low income people struggling on fixed incomes to pay the property taxes of very rich, well heeled business owners?   DVOR, you DO know that it is an UNDFISPUTABLE, UNDENIABLE FACT that the rich business owners downtown get 100% property tax exemptions.  The Hampton Hotel, a BIG HUGE chain hotel worth hundreds of millions of dollars is exempt from paying their property taxes but the residents who have typical incomes of only $30,000 have to pay for the taxes of the hotel?

DV, can you PLEASES explain how people on fixed incomes are supposed to afford to cover the property taxes of those downtown businesses?

DV, can you tell us WHY YOU believe low income people should be forced to struggle, probably go without food or medical in order to pay the taxes of millionaires?????   Can you tell us WHY you believe the poorer people should pay the taxes of the rich?

Or are you going to deny that the rich are 100% exempt from the property taxes??:????


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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