Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
"New" Governor Paterson
Rotterdam NY...the people's voice    Rotterdam's Virtual Internet Community    New York State  ›  "New" Governor Paterson Moderators: Admin
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 8 Guests

"New" Governor Paterson  This thread currently has 4,196 views. |
5 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 » Recommend Thread
Possum
March 19, 2008, 7:52am Report to Moderator
Guest User
I doubt it will happen, but God help us if it does.

Quoted from 147
Cant you see it now ... Governor Bruno - how far off can it really be?


Logged
E-mail Reply: 15 - 65
bumblethru
March 19, 2008, 8:41am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
30,841
Reputation
78.26%
Reputation Score
+36 / -10
Time Online
412 days 18 hours 59 minutes
I don't know of anyone I would want for governor. And I beleive Bruno's  motives would be to 'spite Spitzer' only.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
Logged
Private Message Reply: 16 - 65
MobileTerminal
March 19, 2008, 9:20am Report to Moderator
Guest User
Frankly, I'm concerned that Patterson will attempt to sweep Spitzers issues under the carpet, or worse yet, pardon him if he is indicted/found guilty.
Logged
E-mail Reply: 17 - 65
Shadow
March 19, 2008, 9:41am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
11,107
Reputation
70.83%
Reputation Score
+17 / -7
Time Online
448 days 17 minutes
Patterson can only pardon Spitzer of any state charges but Spitzer may be facing federal charges.
Logged
Private Message Reply: 18 - 65
senders
March 19, 2008, 3:25pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
29,348
Reputation
70.97%
Reputation Score
+22 / -9
Time Online
1574 days 2 hours 22 minutes
The 'lovers' of our government officials dont have human parts/sex that are for sale......they have a voracious appetite that the tax payers cant subsidize anymore.....get the monkeys off our backs.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 19 - 65
Admin
March 19, 2008, 5:54pm Report to Moderator
Board Moderator
Posts
18,484
Reputation
64.00%
Reputation Score
+16 / -9
Time Online
769 days 23 minutes
http://www.timesunion.com
Quoted Text
Affairs of state take center stage again
After Spitzer, Paterson admission could bring milder public response


By JORDAN CARLEO-EVANGELIST and STEVE BARNES, Staff writers
First published: Wednesday, March 19, 2008

ALBANY -- The governor says "I did it."
     
The question is, "Who cares?"
Gov. David Paterson -- in office hardly 24 hours and with his wife, Michelle, at his side -- admitted Tuesday to having extramarital affairs. So did his wife. It's in their past, they said, and the family has moved on.
Paterson's problem -- or saving grace, depending on how you look at it -- may be that he is inextricably linked to his predecessor, Eliot Spitzer, who resigned in disgrace Monday after being linked to a high-priced call girl ring.
Perhaps unfairly, some will lump together the two men's conduct, even though the circumstances are vastly different. Conversely, Paterson's indiscretions may seem all the more forgivable because, unlike Spitzer, he isn't facing possible criminal charges.
So is it the public's business?
"I think given the political climate, he probably did need to tell people," said Michelle Rea, executive director of the New York Press Association in Albany.
Rea noted that news of the Patersons' affairs came out soon after a former male aide to ex-New Jersey Gov. James McGreevey claimed he had threesome encounters with McGreevey and Dina Matos McGreevey, the ex-governor's estranged wife, an allegation confirmed by McGreevey but denied by her.
"In the events of the past couple of days, the public got a lot of things, in New York as well as New Jersey, that we didn't need to know," Rea said.
Kelly McBride, a faculty member at the Poynter Institute in Florida who has studied how media covers sexuality, said the definition of what's fair game has evolved substantially since President Bill Clinton's Oval Office indiscretions were news in the late 1990s.
"It used to be that reporters literally turned their heads the other way," McBride said, referring to the 1950s and 1960s.
These days, McBride said, there are "a handful of justifications" reporters use for probing politicians' sex lives.
"Certainly, the easy one is with Spitzer -- if it's illegal," McBride said.
Others, she said, include abuse of power -- to reward a lover or coerce a relationship -- and hypocrisy, when private lives contradict public statements.
None of those is alleged in the case of the Patersons.
McBride, however, said the last one, hypocrisy, is often used more to justify a titillating story.
"Part of our job is to give people information they need so that they can know how to vote; it's how democracy works," she said. "And when you're talking about a politician, I think that threshold is very, very low."
The gauge may be how the alleged indiscretion will affect a person's ability to do their job.
"We're talking about very much a sliding scale here," said William Rainbolt, an associate professor and director of the journalism program at the University at Albany. "I think it always goes back to, 'What effect can this have on this person's performance of a public duty in the public trust? ... Fair or not, they're the ones that wanted this office, and they have to carry the fact that we expect this higher standard."
Logged
Private Message Reply: 20 - 65
senders
March 19, 2008, 6:36pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
29,348
Reputation
70.97%
Reputation Score
+22 / -9
Time Online
1574 days 2 hours 22 minutes
No,,,,now it is time for the state to VOMIT OUT the crap eating at the state.....and rid us of our monkeys which are hardly sexual trysts....although those are a part of the shaky foundation we have built.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 21 - 65
bumblethru
March 19, 2008, 8:01pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
30,841
Reputation
78.26%
Reputation Score
+36 / -10
Time Online
412 days 18 hours 59 minutes
My suspicion of Paterson is that why he didn't go to the 'public confessional' BEFORE he was sworn in.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
Logged
Private Message Reply: 22 - 65
Admin
March 19, 2008, 8:38pm Report to Moderator
Board Moderator
Posts
18,484
Reputation
64.00%
Reputation Score
+16 / -9
Time Online
769 days 23 minutes
http://www.timesunion.com
Quoted Text
State leaders' resignation letters 'typical'
Paterson likely to hold over many Spitzer officials


By JAMES ODATO, Capitol bureau
Wednesday, March 19, 2008

ALBANY - Less than a week after telling state agency heads he's keeping the Spitzer team intact, Gov. David Paterson today asked all commissioners, directors and top staff to submit their resignations.
     
The requests from the new governor arrived as Acting State Police Superintendent Preston Felton advised Paterson he's retiring effective April 4 from his $157,000-per-year post. He will leave after more than 26 years with the force.
The theory is that Paterson's staff will contact executives soon and let them know that most of their resignations won't be accepted, but others will, according to an administration official.
"This is a typical step in the transition of one administration to another," said Paterson spokesman Errol Cockfield Jr. "This is not a signal there will be mass departures throughout the administration."
Some people have already been informed they will be allowed to move on, including Felton.
"The resignation was offered and accepted," Cockfield said about the acting superintendent. Others who are being dismissed include senior advisor Lloyd Constantine, chief of staff Richard Baum and scheduling officer Marlene Turner.
Felton, 49, announced retirement for the second time.
He planned to begin collecting his pension 13 months ago when he retired as the first deputy superintendent of the State Police. He rescinded his retirement and returned to become the acting superintendent at Gov. Eliot Spitzer's request.
"He was not asked to resign," said Lt. Glenn Miner, a spokesman for the 5,000-member force. "I'm sure its personal reasons."
Under Felton, the State Police were accused by Senate Republicans of politicizing the force, allowing Spitzer to use it to help attack Senate Majority Leader Joseph Bruno, a charge State Police officials refuted. More recently, critics attacks the force for not knowing or coming forth with information about Spitzer's meetings with prostitutes.
Felton had hoped to be considered for the superintendent's job. The next highest ranking executive is Col. Pedro Perez, the field commander, stationed at the Division headquarters in Albany.
Others mentioned as potential replacements include Harry Corbitt, a retired State Police colonel and some active chiefs with the New York City Police Department and the Metropolitan Transit Authority.
Dan De Federicis, president of the trooper's union, said Felton is appreciated for improving safety equipment and weaponry.
Logged
Private Message Reply: 23 - 65
Admin
March 20, 2008, 5:57am Report to Moderator
Board Moderator
Posts
18,484
Reputation
64.00%
Reputation Score
+16 / -9
Time Online
769 days 23 minutes
http://www.nypost.com
Quoted Text
BE VERY AFRAID OF THIS HUBBY
STUD GOV'S LOVER WED TO BIGSHOT

By FREDRIC U. DICKER and KENNETH LOVETT in Albany and DAVE SEIFMAN in New York
DANGEROUS LIAISON: Randy Loyd is set to trash a fotog yesterday amid the hoopla over his wife's affair with...
Paterson's Affairs

Gov. David Paterson faced questions at City Hall about alleged recordings with a woman claiming to be a mistress and another who works in the Governor's office.

March 20, 2008 --
Some advice to Gov. Paterson about the burly husband of your former lover: Stay away!
That's what several sources who know Randy Loyd, the insurance executive married to former Paterson lover Lila Kirton, told The Post yesterday as they mulled over the new governor's stunning admission that he had a string of affairs with "a number of" women. One of those ladies was identified by sources as Kirton, a longtime state employee.
Loyd's "a big guy who understandably is going to be very unhappy about this," said a source close to the Kirton family.
"My advice to Gov. Paterson: Don't go anywhere near Lila's husband," the source continued.
A second source close to the Kirton family said, "I don't think Lila's husband was aware of this for a long time, assuming he ever became aware of it."
Loyd gave an alarming preview of that storied rage yesterday.
Pulling up in his Mercedes at his White Plains home, photographers ran up to take his picture, touching off a screaming tantrum.
"Get out of here!" he yowled, chasing a pair of shutterbugs. "Get off my property!"
Then he picked up a blue recycling bin and hurled it in their direction, hitting one of the photographers in the back.
Kirton, a longtime Paterson friend who served as disgraced former Gov. Eliot Spitzer's $150,000-a-year director of intergovernmental affairs, has been told by Paterson she can remain in the Governor's Office or seek a transfer, sources said.
The new governor continued to field a hail of questions about past romances in the wake of the extraordinary Tuesday press conference where, with wife Michelle at his side, he revealed he had several affairs and his wife one.
Paterson, appearing yesterday with Mayor Bloomberg at City Hall, defiantly challenged former Olympic gold medal winner Diane Dixon to make public the tape recordings she told The Post she possesses. She said the tapes demonstrate a close relationship with Paterson when he was lieutenant governor.
"Any conversation she said she recorded with me could be played in this room and it wouldn't be interesting," Paterson said.
Paterson insisted about Dixon: "I know her, not that well."
Paterson, a Democrat, on Monday succeeded Spitzer, who had been forced to resign in a hooker scandal. The new governor suggested he regretted disclosing as much as he did about his infidelities.
"Maybe there was too much information, but I was just trying to demonstrate what I thought was my responsibility," Paterson said. State lawmakers on both sides of the political aisle were still reeling over Paterson's admission in the wake of the Spitzer scandal.
A Republican state senator said Paterson should have resigned, contending, "Hasn't New York been embarrassed enough? We've become a joke."
A Democratic senator who had been close to Paterson called the new governor's admission on his first day in office "bizarre," adding: "He could have waited a couple of months until he was up to speed."
Meanwhile, in the wake of Gov. Paterson saying he did not "knowingly" use campaign cash to help fund his extramarital affairs, the new governor's staffers said they are combing through campaign records to make sure.
Logged
Private Message Reply: 24 - 65
MobileTerminal
March 20, 2008, 8:01am Report to Moderator
Guest User
This is the one that concerns me the most
Logged
E-mail Reply: 25 - 65
bumblethru
March 20, 2008, 8:28am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
30,841
Reputation
78.26%
Reputation Score
+36 / -10
Time Online
412 days 18 hours 59 minutes
Can you just  see it...'Gov. Paterson must resign due to illegal use of campaign contributions!' Exit Paterson..Enter Bruno!! And I can't help but believe that Bruno would have enough skeletons in his closet to fill a graveyard. Then it would be on to Silver.

Perhaps this just might be a good move! They we could get rid of them all! Starting from the top down!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
Logged
Private Message Reply: 26 - 65
Possum
March 20, 2008, 9:53am Report to Moderator
Guest User
I could be mistaken, but in the unlikely event Bruno takes over, I think it would only be until this November when a new election would need to be held.  Most of us probably have enough skeletons in our closets that someone would feel to be sufficient grounds for resignation.  Ideally, we would be able to hold elected individuals to a higher standard than the rest of us, but I doubt its possible.  

Quoted from bumblethru
Can you just  see it...'Gov. Paterson must resign due to illegal use of campaign contributions!' Exit Paterson..Enter Bruno!! And I can't help but believe that Bruno would have enough skeletons in his closet to fill a graveyard. Then it would be on to Silver.

Perhaps this just might be a good move! They we could get rid of them all! Starting from the top down!

Logged
E-mail Reply: 27 - 65
Rene
March 20, 2008, 10:57am Report to Moderator
Guest User
Quoted Text
Meanwhile, in the wake of Gov. Paterson saying he did not "knowingly" use campaign cash to help fund his extramarital affairs, the new governor's staffers said they are combing through campaign records to make sure.


I caught that comment too.  It was just after another comment when he stated difinitively that no campaign money was used. This statement caught my attention more because of how it was said rather than what was said.  I can't imagine Bruno as our Governor or should I say I don't want to imagine him as our Governor.  Actually, is there anybody out there who hasn't either boinked a hooker, had several extra-marital affairs, done drugs, or in general is the scum of the earth?  I'm not saying we need a nun, but a bit of character would be a bonus.
Logged
E-mail Reply: 28 - 65
senders
March 20, 2008, 5:08pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
29,348
Reputation
70.97%
Reputation Score
+22 / -9
Time Online
1574 days 2 hours 22 minutes
And the merry-go-round turns.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 29 - 65
5 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 » Recommend Thread
|


Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread