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Internet-friendly skies bring questions of etiquette, openness
Airborne phone calls, bothersome surfing pose problems

BY ANICK JESDANUN The Associated Press

    NEW YORK — Seat 17D is yapping endlessly on an Internet phone call. Seat 16F is flaming Seat 16D with expletive-laden chats. Seat 16E is too busy surfing porn sites to care. Seat 17C just wants to sleep.
    Welcome to the promise of the Internet at 33,000 feet — and the questions of etiquette, openness and free speech that airlines and service providers will have to grapple with as they bring Internet access to the skies in the coming months.
    “This gets into a ticklish area,” said Vint Cerf, one of the Internet’s chief inventors and generally a critic of network restrictions. “Airlines have to be sensitive to the fact that customers are [seated] close together and may be able to see each other’s PC screens. More to the point, young people are often aboard the plane.”
    Technology providers and airlines are already making decisions. Some will block services like Internet phone calls altogether while others will put limits and install filters on content. And traffi c management tools that are frowned upon on terra firma could be commonplace in the air.
    Panasonic Avionics Corp., a Matsushita Electric Industrial Co. unit testing airborne services on Australia’s Qantas Airways Ltd., is designing its high-speed Internet services to block sites on “an objectionable list,” including porn and violence, said David Bruner, executive director for corporate sales and marketing.
    He said airlines based in more restrictive countries could choose to expand the list.
    The company also is recommending that airlines permit Internetbased phone calls only on handsets with wireless Wi-Fi capabilities — the technology delivering access within the passenger cabin. Bruner said the company believes Wi-Fi handsets use less bandwidth than telephone software that runs on laptops.
    Airlines, he said, also could block incoming calls — and the annoying ring tones they produce — or designate periods of quiet time.
    OnAir, which has European certification for airborne cellular services, plans to give airlines similar choices, Chief Executive Benoit Debains said. Although some airlines are concerned about noise, Debains said, enabling voice would generate more revenue than data-only services.
    Air France, which plans to start allowing cellular calls through OnAir within months, said it would see how people use such services before crafting rules.
    “Are you going to reach your wife to tell her what you did the entire day or just tell her, ‘Can you pick me up at the airport?’ ” Air France spokeswoman Marina Tymen said, adding that passengers might tell the airline that data services fulfill all their needs.
    U.S. airlines are largely taking the opposite approach.
    With possible exceptions for crew and federal air marshals, flights on AMR Corp.’s American Airlines and Alaska Air Group Inc.’s Alaska Airlines won’t have access to Internet-based phone services like eBay Inc.’s Skype.
    Discount startup Virgin America is also considering a ban.
    “An airborne environment is a confined environment,” said Charles Ogilvie, Virgin’s director of in-flight entertainment and partnerships. “You don’t want 22B yapping away or playing on a boom box.”
    Airlines have offered in-flight phone services before, but their high costs have limited their popularity. By contrast, Internet phone calls are free or cheap, particularly for passengers already paying for in-flight access to check e-mail or surf Web sites.
    Meanwhile, American, Alaska and Virgin have no plans to filter sites based on their content. At most, an airline may manage traffic and delay large downloads, or in Virgin’s case give passengers the option of enabling controls for their kids.
    “We think decency and good sense and normal behavior” will prevail, said Jack Blumenstein, chief executive of Aircell LLC, which is launching service on some American and Virgin flights in 2008.
EFF CHIU/THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Charles Ogilvie, director of in-flight entertainment for Virgin America, uses a computer in the first-class seating section of a plane at San Francisco International Airport.
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I fly a bit -90,000 miles last year- I have Platnum elite status with Continental and  I frequent a website -Flyertalk.com.  

Most surveys show frequent flyers do not want cell phone service.  There is a growing dislike for cell phone use in close proximity- with illegal cell phone jammers being available for purchase-  

But Internet access  is greatly anticipated. At least with those that fly alot.


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The world is shrinking and getting very very noisy.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I don't fly. I never did fly. I'M PETRIFIED TO FLY!!  I am claustrophobic, so the thought of getting on a plane and knowing I can't get off (obviously) whenever I want to would make me nuts. Yet I am in awe when I see a plane take off. It is mind boggling that this huge thing can fly.

If I did fly, I would have to have access to a cell phone, internet and HBO to get me through the flight. And probably a drink or two or three as well!
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I don't fly. I never did fly. I'M PETRIFIED TO FLY!!  I am claustrophobic, so the thought of getting on a plane and knowing I can't get off (obviously) whenever I want to would make me nuts.



Well, there ARE CERTAIN flights that you can get off any time you want...


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Cute, BK,  real cute!! You go first!
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Cute, BK,  real cute!! You go first!


I was thinking Rene, then Brad...
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