Alley, you have to be the worst name dropper I've ever talked to. I think this has to be my last post in response to you because I think you are having self delusions.
You love free enterprise? Let's start with your initial post in response to Golub losing the bid for the failed Penn Traffic stores.
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I'm with Schumer. Golub won't be happy till he owns everyone and everything. "better community citizens"? Sure he will buy his way into town. Nothing wrong with unions. Let Golub learn to live with them. The Golub Family is one of the wealthiest families in the US. I hope "up-Chuck" gives him a run for his money.
You are happy that free enterprise was manipulated by a senator that played a hand in awarding the bid to a true big business conglomerate Morgan Stanley. And not just that, to a company that received $10 billion in a taxpayer bailout. This is what America has become. Morons like Alley cheer on government manipulation in the free markets, which in this specific instance couldn't be more appalling, where we have a failed business(Penn Traffic) being purchased by another failed business(Morgan Stanley), while the profitable, self sustaining Golub Corp is made to look as the bad guys. And Chuck Schumer and Alley claim victory.
You may believe I'm in an indefensible position. But I know your multiple positions on this topic are incomprehensible.
Alley, yes or no - Golubs 22 store expansion in the Syracuse market would have helped or hurt these small businesses?
Ally is hardly a rep OR a RHINO. Ally is as liberal a democrat as you can get. As far as being a name dropper.....Ally is clearly doing more harm than good by mentioning and representing these people/businesses.
We aren't all redneck hicks here ally. Some are way more connected than you could ever imagine!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Glad to hear it Bumble--then you and Cicero stop talking out of your butts and act it. Neither one of you have any experience in business and it shows. In the words of Senders..."Get off my back." I don't care about anyone's bottom line but mine. Not a Rep?? Right--I said NO to Baby Huey's metrograft bucks.
Glad to hear it Bumble--then you and Cicero stop talking out of your butts and act it. Neither one of you have any experience in business and it shows. In the words of Senders..."Get off my back." I don't care about anyone's bottom line but mine. Not a Rep?? Right--I said NO to Baby Huey's metrograft bucks.
Hey, no one is on your back. I am just responding aka debating your views. I respect your opinions, no matter how ludicrous and idiotic they are.
As far as any experience in business.....YOU my cyber friend would be SHOCKED!!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Whenever I drive past the nearly completed five-story Golub Corp. headquarters flanking downtown Schenectady, my mind drifts to Rutland, Vt.
Back in 2003, while making frequent Vermont trips I was impressed by the successful integration of a relatively new shopping plaza into the heart of a centuries-old downtown.
Rutland Mayor John Cassarino told me the urban mall was a blessing because it revived a downtown that had become desolate during the early '90s.
The layout included a dozen stores and a centerpiece cinema. A Wal-Mart anchored one end, a Price Chopper market the other. Acres of free parking surround the place.
Each time I stopped at that Price Chopper the place was ultra-busy, making me wonder if the urban mall concept could help turn around moribund downtown Schenectady.
I called Neil Golub, asking if he thought a duplicate project would work in Schenectady. While he praised the success of his Rutland market and the shopping plaza, he doubted the format would click in Schenectady.
"In Rutland, downtown is the main destination for shoppers because unlike Schenectady, it doesn't have to compete with a lot of nearby suburban malls," Golub said at that time.
I was disappointed because Golub didn't go along with my plan to spend his money. Instead, he's giving the city a boost by erecting the office building that will pump 800 to 1,000 Golub workers into downtown streets and shops.
ROTTERDAM Golub adjusts plan for project Proposal aims to please neighbors BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter
In an effort to appease some of the residents of Dolan Drive, officials with the Golub Corporation proposed a compromise that would move Dunnsville Road and a proposed warehouse project farther away from the neighborhood. The 194-page proposal would also move the relocated road’s entrance about 250 feet east along Route 7, thereby creating an even larger buffer between the planned warehouse and the homes. Under the new road configuration, Golub would lose up to 60,000 square feet of potential warehouse space, up to a 15 percent reduction from what the company had originally proposed. New documents submitted to the town last week also give a clearer timetable of the massive project. Under the 20-year schedule included in the compromise option, Golub would relocate Dunnsvile Road next year but wait until 2013 to build its first warehouse, a “slow moving grocery” facility with up to 140,000 square feet of space. The new proposal also gives a cost estimate of up to $20 million for the initial construction phase. The project could add up to $9.2 million in assessment base to Rotterdam, according to the proposal. Changes to the project also mean it must go back before the commission for a recommendation. Town Board members will need to wait for the recommendation before deciding whether to approve a zone change and comprehensive plan amendment that would allow the project to advance. The new plan was proposed just a day after the Town Board heard a litany of complaints from residents living in the vicinity of the proposed relocation. The road relocation has been strongly contested by the nearly three dozen homeowners on Dolan Drive, many of whom fear that the warehouse project will ruin the value of their property and significantly lower their quality of life. ..................>>>>................>>>>..............http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01103&AppName=1
ROTTERDAM Panel gives OK to Golub BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter
The Rotterdam’s Planning Commission approved changes to the Golub Corp.’s proposed relocation of Dunnsville Road, but not before getting an earful from residents living near the project. Earlier this month, Price Chopper’s parent company had proposed a compromise in an effort to appease some of the project’s critics. It appeared before the commission in order to revise some of the initial specifications. These changes include moving the Dunnsville Road intersection with Duanesburg Road farther east to create a larger buffer between the residential neighborhood on Dolan Drive and reducing the size of a proposed warehouse by roughly 10 percent. “We would submit that the plan you have before you now is a plan that has less of an impact than the one we previously submitted,” said Terresa Bakner, an attorney representing Golub. But residents speaking at the commission’s meeting Tuesday were not mollified by the modifications. They urged the company to do more to mitigate quality of life issues that would be created by building a mas- sive warehouse within a short distance from their homes. Dolan Drive resident John McAuliffe said he spent several thousand dollars to hire an attorney and an architect to present alternatives to the project proposal. He said even the compromise option leaves homeowners on the southern end of Dolan Drive exposed to a view of the warehouse proposed on land roughly 200 feet away. ................>>>>.................>>>>.................................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01303&AppName=1
The residents couldn't WAIT to throw out the Republicans, and within a few months with their new administration they finally got what they must have wanted with all that hopenchange.
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
It'll be interesting to see if these same people continue to show up at these town board meetings.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
It'll be interesting to see if these same people continue to show up at these town board meetings.
I wouldn't blame them if they didn't .. they're ridiculed, interrupted, mocked and what they say has NO impact on this town board - they're going to do what they want to anyway. I'm not saying they SHOULDN'T, just that it wouldn't surprise me if they say "why bother".
Residents need to flood local media with complaints. Newspaper letters to the editor. TU Advocate, use TV "tip lines", talk radio - anything that will get the attention of the people. Not the 100-200 people here in this forum. Not the 50 that sit at town board meetings, or the even less that watch them on SACCTV (or whatever it's called now). People need to take this to REAL media sources, and the Gazette (/tic) -
The power of the people CAN be heard, it's just not being expressed in the right venue, IMHO.
They can flood the local media with their concerns.....if it goes into print is another story!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
ROTTERDAM Board wants promise to purchase 4 homes BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter
Rotterdam Supervisor Frank Del Gallo wants the Golub Corporation to sign a written promise to purchase several homes on Duanesburg Road before putting their proposed relocation of Dunnsville Road up to a vote Wednesday. Price Chopper’s parent company had offered to buy at least four homes affected by its plans to widen and move a stretch of Dunnsville Road. Property owners in the area could lose some land, something that would bring the busy roadway’s traffic closer to their homes. “The trucks are going to be driving through their front yards,” Del Gallo said during the Town Board’s agenda meeting Monday. Each of the affected residents on Duanesburg Road were offered $5,000 for an option to by their land. But property owners still haven’t received a contract for purchase and haven’t seen any of the money, Del Gallo reported. One of the residents complained about the seemingly stalled land deal during the Planning Commission meeting last week. Michelle Guilbeau said she agreed to sell Golub her property last year, but the company failed to respond for more than seven months after she signed the purchase agreement. Her criticism rankled members of the commission, which still approved several amendments to the company’s proposal. However, Del Gallo said members of the Town Board aren’t receptive to voting on the proposed zone change and amendment to the town’s comprehensive plan without and written agreement from Golub to purchase the properties. The project is on the board’s agenda for Wednesday. But without some sort of concrete assurance from the company, Del Gallo said the resolution will likely be pulled. “Give us your word that you’re going buy those houses,” he said. “It’s something that has to be addressed somehow.”
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