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They'll get it the same place the county does, anywhere they can.  


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Why not ALCOHOL/BEER?????  


That would make way too many grumpy folks.....road rage and all........atleast if the sheeple are tipsy/woozy no one would particularly care about the taxes......

just like street drugs(and pretty much anything your local MD is willing to give ya)----keep 'em 'happy'.....they wont know the difference when the merry-go-round operator changes as long as the horses all go up and down up and down around around around around........

besides alcohol can be obtained/made anywhere----I'm not too sure that it is that easy to grow tabacco in the northern states?????

Bathtub gin all around----although the government will find a way to tax the still,,,,I'm sure.....and THAT wont be pretty-talk about a 'tea party' to be talked about for generations to come.......


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It won't be long b4 the governmennt will be telling us what brand of coffee to drink, how much alcohol we can consume while not driving, and what news we can listen to. Talk about a socialist state.
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Funny how they raise the tax on cigarettes and project those funds to supplient their out of control budget. THEN...they use our tax dollar YET AGAIN to promote a 'quit smoking' hot line and tv ads. Please...someone tell me their logic here? They reaise the cigarette tax for more revenue, then they spend more revenue to encourage people to quit smoking...hence, if everyone quits smoking, where will they get the lost revenue from the cigarette tax? I must be missing something here? I think it is 'logic'!


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I still don't understand why they'll tax cigarettes so much but won't add a nickle to a beer. Think of the $ they'd raise!
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I still don't understand why they'll tax cigarettes so much but won't add a nickle to a beer. Think of the $ they'd raise!


Too much work to grow tabacco.....brewing is much more fun.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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Roll-your-own tobacco is relabeled as a tax dodge
BY MATT APUZZO The Associated Press

    WASHINGTON — When President Barack Obama signed a law expanding children’s health insurance this spring, he slapped tobacco companies with huge tax increases to pay for it.
    It didn’t take long for the companies to find a multimillion-dollar loophole.
    As soon as the new law took effect, raising taxes on roll-yourown cigarettes from $1.10 to $24.78 a pound, companies adapted. They all but shut down their roll-yourown brands and reinvented them under a less-restricted, less-taxed category: pipe tobacco. It’s still destined to be rolled and smoked, but it’s taxed at barely a tenth the rate, $2.83 per pound.
    Pipe tobacco is normally too coarse and moist to roll into a cigarette, but nothing says it has to be. In fact, the Obama administration says the only distinction between pipe tobacco and roll-your-own tobacco is how it’s labeled, effectively giving tobacco marketing executives an opportunity to shape their own tax rate.
    Nearly overnight, roll-your-own brands like Criss Cross and Farmers Gold came off the shelves, replaced by pipe tobacco with the same names. The cuts may be slightly different, but they’re suitable for rolling. Knowing this, retailers steer customers to the new products, sometimes with a wink and a nod, sometimes with outright advertising.
    “They tried to make a product within the elements of the law that they could, in fact, market as pipe tobacco,” said Scott Bendett, owner of Habana Premium Cigar Shoppe in Albany, which advertises the new pipe tobacco for hand-rolled cigarettes.
    Tobacco companies say they’re just trying to find a legal way to stay afloat after being saddled with an enormous tax increase. But both the Obama administration and some in Congress say they’ll try to come up with a distinction between the tobacco types, closing a loophole that could cost taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars year.
    “If the companies won’t do what is right, then we will,” said Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., a reliably anti-tobacco voice in Congress.
    Because the small, independent companies in the roll-your-own market are often overshadowed by the huge, publicly held cigarette companies, the sudden shift toward pipe tobacco caught researchers by surprise.
    Daniel Morris, who tracks tobacco production data at the Oregon Department of Health, thought he had made a mistake when he saw April’s figures. Pipe tobacco production had more than doubled in a single month. After years of producing about 270,000 pounds per month, companies put more than 566,000 pounds of pipe tobacco on the market in April. .....................>>>>.......................>>>>.................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r00600&AppName=1
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No wonder some in government wants to legalize pot it will be something else for them to tax.
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No....they are looking for their own loopholes and 'blaming' someone else for the ills they try to take charge of, which are not in their realm of
responsibility......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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