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BIGK75
September 13, 2007, 9:45pm Report to Moderator
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before people find out she's the buffoon. (per the quote at the bottom as just another point towards it)

http://www.reference.com/search?r=13&q=Buffoon

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Buffoon
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The term Buffoon is used to define someone who provides amusement through inappropriate appearance and/or behavior. Strictly, a buffoon describes a "ridiculous, but nevertheless amusing person." In the broad terms, a buffoon is a clownish, publicly amusing person, such as a court jester. In the more modern sense, the term is frequently used in a derogatory sense to describe someone considered a public fool, or someone whose inappropriately vulgar, bumbling or ridiculous behavior is a source of general amusement.
The term may originate from the old Italian "buffare", meaning to puff out one's cheeks. Robin Williams conjectures in the movie Toys that the word "is a combination of the words 'buffer' and 'fool.' Or perhaps 'buffamotus,' he who carries the pickle."



We can be amused, but ashamed at the same time.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/12/politics/main3254857.shtml

Giuliani Knocks Clinton's Petraeus Comment
Republican Presidential Candidate Calls For End To "Maligning Other People's Motives"

AKRON, Ohio, Sept. 12, 2007



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AP) Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani denounced Democratic rival Hillary Rodham Clinton on Wednesday for challenging the Capitol Hill testimony of the top U.S. military commander in Iraq.

"Hillary Clinton, questioning Gen. (David) Petraeus, said you had to suspend disbelief," Giuliani said after a brief campaign stop at an Akron restaurant. "Why would you say that about an American general?"

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The New York senator appeared skeptical
Tuesday of the positive spin Petraeus put on improvements in Iraq, saying,
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"The reports that you provide to us really require the willing suspension of disbelief."


Giuliani said Petraeus was doing "the best that he can." He also criticized the liberal anti-war group MoveOn.org for running newspaper advertisements that asked "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?"

"I can't imagine why we can't get beyond maligning other people's motives nowadays in politics," said Giuliani, a former New York City mayor.

"There is no reason to do what MoveOn.org or Hillary Clinton have done - which is to make personal attacks on the general."

Giuliani had a private fundraising event arranged in Akron but no details were disclosed by his campaign staff.

He arrived in Ohio - expected to again be a key political battleground in 2008 after clinching President Bush's 2004 re-election - following a fundraiser earlier in the day in Morgantown, W.Va. He was to travel to Canonsburg, Pa., and Bluffton, S.C., after the Akron visit.


"The New York senator appeared skeptical"

No, not skeptical, more like 3rd Reichesque, Communist, playing to her own party.

Now, here's another point that you're not going to hear the full blown left leaning media bring up again.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,247103,00.html

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Senate Approves Lt. Gen. David Petraeus as Top U.S. Commander in Iraq
Friday, January 26, 2007

WASHINGTON  —  The Senate on Friday unanimously approved Lt. Gen. David Petraeus to become the new U.S. forces commander in Iraq, less than a month after President Bush outlined a new strategy in the war-torn country that is facing opposition in the Democrat-led Congress.

Petraeus replaces Gen. George Casey, who has been nominated to be the next Army Chief of Staff.

The Senate approved Petraeus' nomination in an 81-0 vote.

Sen. John Warner, R-Va., a former secretary of the Navy who recently has become critical of the president's war planning offered advice to Petraeus before he cast his vote.

"On the battlefield, decisions must be made in a matter of seconds, from the platoon level up the chain of command. We cannot have finger-pointing. We cannot have a mission where an Iraqi lieutenant said we should go left, the American embedded officer or whomever commands the Americans in that situation, says go right, [and] the mission not achieve its goal. ... It's going to be extremely complex," Warner said.

Friday's vote followed a unanimous recommendation Wednesday from the Senate Armed Services Committee on Wednesday approved Petraeus' nomination, and approval looked locked down before the vote took place.




The person that Ms. Hillary is telling you that you have to "suspend disbelief to believe what he was telling you" is the same person that the Senate Armed Services committee nominated and the Senate UNANIMOUSLY approved is not doing what over half of the Senate expected him to?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/.....on_of_disbelief.html

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September 11, 2007
Read More: Iraq

Clinton: Believing Petraeus and Crocker requires 'willing suspension of disbelief'


Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.), frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2008, opened her questioning of Petraeus and Crocker with the standard "I honor you for your service." And then she let the two of them have it.

"You have been made the de facto spokesmen for what many of us believe to be a failed policy" in Iraq, Clinton said. "Despite what I view is your rather extraordinary efforts in your testimony both yesterday and today, I think that the reports that you provide to us really require a willing suspension of disbelief."

Clinton added that "any fair reading of the advantages and disadvantages accruing post-surge, in my view, end up on the downside."

Clinton then pivoted to Osama bin Laden, pointing out that on the sixth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, he still has not been killed or captured. The New York Democrat said she started her morning at "Ground Zero" in New York City, where the names of the victims of the 9/11 attacks were read out.

"We have seen Osama bin Laden on television sets, essentially taunting us," Clinton said. "And we get very little comfort from the fact that the mastermind of that mass murder is at large, neither captured nor killed, and that the Taliban and al Qaeda are resurgent in Afghanistan, and their network is certainly, if not tightly organized, a loose confederancy that has great consequences for us."



Clinton then relayed a litany of problems in  and with Iraq, including as always for Democrats, the lack of political reconciliation there before offering a backhanded slap at both Petraeus and Crocker.

"I give you tremendous credit for presenting as positive a view of a positive a view of a rather grim reality," Clinton said. "I know that you and certainly the very capable people working with both of you, were dealt a very hard hand. And it is a hand that is unlikely to improve, in my view."

Clinton then pressed Petraeus for a "very specific answer" on the failure of the Maliki government to reach political agreements to end sectarian violence.

In addressing Crocker, Clinton said, "It's not only the Iraqi government that has failed to pursue a coherent strategy. I think our own has as well."

When Clinton was done, many of the reporters and about two-thirds of the audience left.



Now, one final thing on this...

willing suspension of disbelief.

doesn't that mean that you have to stop not believing the report that the person you put in power over there because in fact it's NOT ALL LIES?
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Even though I hate these presidential candidate starting their campaigning this early, it has benefited Hillary. Cause the more she talks, the more she sounds like a dimwit and digs herself yet a bigger hole!


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If you don't like Hillary's point of view wait a minute she'll change it. Hillary goes the way the wind blows at the time.
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She's just used to her husbands 'farts'......gotta have quick feet for that.....


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