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You got that right Bumble.....BTW....does anyone know about the EXCEL grant being offered for the Mohon School District???....We better vote YES NOW,,,SO WE DONT HAVE TO PAY LATER(later always means higher prices/hourly wages/etc etc).....Pinewood school has to pump its septic everyday because the water table is so high.....if we had the sewers before it wouldn't have been an issue now....well, not such a hot issue(maybe)...we all always complain.....


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Most of the town of Rotterdam has a high water table and you're right Senders sewers should have been put in many years ago and there wouldn't be a problem.
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And just think how much it is costing the taxpayers in the Mohonasen school district for the pumping of the sewers EVERY SINGLE DAY! And to think that in this day and age, they actually must figure this into their yearly budget. Perhaps sewers would be cheaper in the long run, huh?


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ROTTERDAM
Timing led to tax rate confusion
Assumption by assessment firm cited in discrepancies
BY MICHAEL LAMENDOLA Gazette Reporter
Reach Gazette reporter Michael Lamendola at 395-3114 or lamend@dailygazette.com

   Bad timing and conflicting information appear to lie at the center of discrepancies between real and projected tax rates in the Mohonasen School District, which created an uproar among Rotterdam residents who saw dramatic increases in their tax bills this year, officials said.
   Residents blame the town’s recently completed reassessment for the tax hikes and point an accusing finger at GAR Associates, which did the work. GAR mailed out assessment disclosure notices prior to March 1 that estimated Mohonasen school district residents would pay about $8.89 per $1,000 of assessed property value. They were actually billed $14.64 per $1,000. Rotterdam paid GAR, a private appraisal fi rm, $752,000 to conduct the revaluation.
   Geoffrey Glock, spokesman for the state Office of Real Property Services, said GAR mailed out notices based on the assumption Mohonasen would adopt a homestead rate for taxpayers. Instead, the school board decided in March against the option, which would have set different tax rates for residential and commercial properties.
   “So that’s why there was a difference on the assessment disclosure notices and the tax bills,” Glock said. “GAR made the assumption that Mohonasen would use the homestead option, and that’s not what happened. It had to send out its disclosure notices at least 60 days prior to tentative roll date, which is March 1.”
   Mohonasen school Superintendent Kathleen Spring said district officials were not involved in the preparation of GAR’s disclosure notices. She said Mohonasen mailed its own notices to district residents and held public hearings prior to the May school budget vote, notices that estimated the tax rate would be approximately $14.30 per $1,000 assessed value.
   Voters approved a $1.5 million spending increase in Mohonasen’s operating budget, which boosted the tax levy of about 4.25 percent.
   “I don’t think people calculated what $14.30 per $1,000 would mean versus the other statement, which was $8 per $1,000,” Spring said.
   Conversely, GAR’s assessment disclosure notices for the Schalmont Central School District accurately reflected tax rates district residents would pay, said Superintendent Valerie Kelsey.
   GAR based its estimates on the assumption Schalmont would adopt the homestead rate, which it did. The district adopted tax rates of $17.22 per $1,000 for residential properties and $20.05 per $1,000 for commercial properties.
   Schalmont had to adopt a homestead rate prior to May 1, when the final assessment roll came out.
   Mohonasen officials had hoped to help district residents by seeking permission from the county Legislature to offer installments payments. District residents must now pay one lump sum by Oct. 1.
   Spring said she believed the county Legislature had to enact the legislation first, and she sent the county a letter dated last Friday asking for help.
LAW CHANGED
   However, she learned Wednesday only the school district has that power under state law.
   County Attorney Chris Gardner said his review of state legislation showed a school board has to adopt an pay-installment option by a two-thirds vote prior to the levy of taxes. He said it is too late for Mohonasen to vote on the plan for this year’s taxes, but the board can do it for the future.
   Spring said she plans to discuss the issue with her board. Meanwhile, she has written to state offi - cials seeking their assistance. “The law is not an option anymore and there is not much we can do. I have to hope, I have to try asking legislators for help. I feel badly for the residents,” she said.
   Rotterdam Supervisor Steven Tommasone supported Spring’s request with an accompanying letter, and county Legislator Joseph Suhrada, R-Rotterdam, issued a news release, both last Friday, asking the county to call a special meeting on the issue.
   Suhrada on Wednesday changed his stance when he learned the county could not enact paymentinstallment legislation for school districts but could do so for towns. He said the county Legislature should allow towns to offer installment payments for their upcoming town taxes.
   Gardner said the Legislature would consider the legislation if all the towns made the request. He said once the legislation is passed, all the towns have to adopt installment plans. He said payment of taxes in this manner could seriously affect a town’s finances. Schenectady County towns currently receive their taxes in a lump sum and they budget accordingly, he said.
   “Apparently Mr. Suhrada and Mr. Tommasone did not do their homework. It’s always good to do the legal research first and the press release later,” Gardner said.  


Joe Suhrada emailed me his respond:

Joann,
My press release called on Gardner to do the research as county
attorney and
IF it was legal and feasible, to try to adopt the quarterly taxes
throughout
the county. Currently, if you live in the CITY you get to do that.
Anyway, I
was requesting legal advice and when I send letters to them, without
releasing them publicly, they mysteriously DON'T GET THEM! Or claim
they
don't.

So I guess he says I should just hire my own lawyer since he is
strictly
there to represent the Democrats, not the whole legislature, proving
once
again, he is NOT the county attorney, he is the attorney for Savage and
the
Democrat Dictatorship.

Joe Suhrada
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That Mr. Gardener isn't doing such a very good job with any of these issues. It seems he did not know the sex offender law was not legal either. So I don't think Mr. Gardener is a good attorney for Ms. Savage either. I just don't think that he is a good attorney at all.
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That Mr. Gardener isn't doing such a very good job with any of these issues. It seems he did not know the sex offender law was not legal either. So I don't think Mr. Gardener is a good attorney for Ms. Savage either. I just don't think that he is a good attorney at all.


I wonder what his salary is????? Dont we pay him????


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I wonder what his salary is????? Dont we pay him????
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I would not ask Mr.Gardener for any advice if I were not part of the democratic dictatorship. He wouldn't probably give false information. Although Tony is correct, that Mr. Gardener didn't give Susan Savage or Ed Kosiur very good council either.


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I wonder what his salary is????? Dont we pay him????


From page 140/218, page is numbered 127  (bottom line of the page)
http://www.schenectadycounty.com/content/2007%20Adopted%20Operating%20Budget.pdf


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Sub Program Code        Sub Program         Expended 2005   Budget as Modified 4/30/06   Departmental Req 2007      
A6010.429180        County Attorney Services    833,856                   679,000                              700,000


Manager Recommended 2007   Adopted 2007
            700,000                          700,000
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that is @#$$@# 'A'........I wonder what loopholes for taxes and where they live??? there is someone who can afford the nice 'lofts' downtown.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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I hardly think that the amount goes to Mr. Gardener directly such as a yearly salary. I'm sure that it is budgeted for ALL possible attorney fees that may arise that year.


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Your right.....he probably has alot of friends in the same profession.....


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They obviously need money in their budget for attorney fees in case they continue to make bad laws that will require an legal council such as for the proposed sex offender law.


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Rotterdam revaluation raised tax bill fourfold

   When I first purchased my home in Rotterdam a little over two years ago, one of the main reasons was low taxes. This is also the reason I felt comfortable paying a little more for my home.
   When I first heard about the town’s plan to reassess, my initial thought was my taxes are going up, but after reading further into the reassessment plan, I was led to believe that they would not go up significantly. According to the information I read, the actual assessed values would increase, while the multiplier used for determining taxes would decrease. This would lead to most people having roughly the same taxes, while some would see increases, but nothing overly significant. This statement was again reiterated to town residents when the estimated taxes were mailed to homeowners by GAR Associates — the company that conducted the reassessment.
   The first year I had my house (2005), the school taxes were ridiculously low, as was the assessed value of my home, but I still filed for the STAR exemption. I have been receiving it ever since. The next year (2006), the assessed value of my home increased substantially, although it still was not close to the actual market value, and my taxes increased as well. This year’s reassessment caused my school taxes to increase from $319.31 to $1,372.51. This will cause my mortgage payment to increase over $87 per month.
   If the town taxes follow the same trend and more than quadruple, that would mean the property taxes I paid earlier this year of $694.78 would increase to $2,986.42. An increase of this amount would then add an additional amount of $190.97 to my monthly mortgage payment.
   These amounts will force me to look into selling my home and moving elsewhere, as my home will now become unaffordable. My only hope is that I can do so before too many people get wind of the significant increase.
   How did my taxes more than quadruple from last year? How do you expect people to afford such a ridiculous increase in taxes?
   ROGER HALBFINGER
   Rotterdam  



  
  
    
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Exactly what happened to me and i have the same concern....can I get out with the taxes so high...I like Rotterdam, but it really doesnt offer what other communities do for the same cost....Its truly a mess to look at....
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