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bumblethru
January 17, 2008, 10:01pm Report to Moderator
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Sprite....I agree with Rene. You seem to have a passion for your profession. Thanks for the inputs! It was worth re-reading!


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January 17, 2008, 10:38pm Report to Moderator
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Sprite, you are the kind of teacher that restores everyone's faith in public education.  I am also confident that your ideals are those of the majority of teachers, and that we should not let a few bad apples spoil the whole barrel.  Thank you again!
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Thanks for the replies.  
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Wow, Sprite, it's amazing.  You say the EXACT things that I say but in a different tone so everyone thinks you're the best thing since...well, religion was still in school, I guess.    Sprite and I are on the same page but I guess he/she puts it more delicately than I do.  

And Bumblethru, I'm not saying I want MORE of those things you listed, I'm just asking people to please stop telling me that I don't deserve them.  You obviously have some built up hatred in you against the system.  All of my posts are meant to defend my profession while all of yours have been to attack it.  What do/did you do for a living?  Maybe the message board can start attacking you.
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Lighten up! No one is attacking YOU personally. I can't speak for anyone else here, but I am voicing my opinion on the subject. I believe that some teachers are great and some are awful. I feel that their benefit package as a whole is fair. I believe that teachers who display bad behavior are yet protected by their union contract. (sex abuse/suspended with pay). That is nonsense. I don't approve of a union as large as the teachers union who pander to politicians for votes. And that is just what they do as like all the other unions. Sure unions have their place. And it should be where it was intended...IN THE LABOR/MANUFACTURING field.

Whether you are a teacher, nurse, laborer, cashier or whatever....they ALL feel they are underpaid and overworked. EVERYONE FEELS THAT WAY!! We all think that we are worth more than we are paid. We feel we are entitled to more. That is the nature of the beast.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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I will start by saying this: You guys have no idea what you are talking about.  1.  It is ILLEGAL for teachers to strike so that is never going to happen.  2.  Instead of striking, we (yes, I'm a teacher) simply  do our jobs.  Here's what I mean:  At my school (all schools are different) we are required to be there from 7:40 a.m. to 2:35 p.m.  So, we wouldn't strike, we would go in together at 7:40 and leave together at 2:35.  We wouldn't stay after to help students.  You may think that sounds horrible but it leads me to my third point.  3.  We don't get paid for staying after school.  How many of you work at your job for free?  In my first few years of teaching, I sepnt about 2 hours a night (on average) getting things ready.  How many of you a) bring your work home and b) don't get paid for working on it?  How many of you go to meetings as part of your job and don't get paid for it?  How many of you go through 45 HOURS of REQUIRED training and get $111 for it?  How many of you go to work, go home, and come back for parents' night and don't get paid for it?  You want to talk about not being able to pay your bills?  I have been teaching for 6 years and I still only make $38,000.  For 3 years, I coached my school's trivia team FOR FREE because it wasn't in the contract so I couldn't get paid for it.  I put in about 35 hours a year doing that FOR FREE.  4. School is the only place where people (students) show up, DO NOT do what they are supposed to, and think it is perfectly OK.  What I mean is 95% of all students are , at some time, off task and misbehaving.  But nobody sees a problem with that.  Everyone says, "You can't yell at my kid!"  Well, how many of you have a job where you have to "babysit" the people under you.  Teaching is 99% babysitting, discipline, paperwork, and meetings.  It is only 1% teaching.  If I only kept the students who truly wanted to learn Biology (my subject) I would have about 5 students per class.  Nobody goes into a restaurant and trashes the place, no body goes to the movies and beats up the pocorn vendor.  But kids come into school EVERY DAY and REFUSE to learn.  So why are they coming?  So, if you think I make too much money because I work more hours than I get paid for with kids who don't care if I do my job (not to mention my job depends on them doing well, even though they sleep through class or go to the bathroom for 10 minutes everyday during my class) maybe you should become a teacher and ask for less money.  By the way, if you can read this, thank the underpaid, underappreciated teacher that taught you.


Hopefully you do not teach in the Mohonasen School District; I  would not want someone with your rotten attitude  to teach my kids
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Just wait for the next generation of "This is my daughter/son and this is my baby's daddy." Ooooohhh, I'm so excited---no committment required for personal relationships, responsibility, accountability etc......I bet these folks, when older, will have arbitraters for their children in school.....


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Just wait for the next generation of "This is my daughter/son and this is my baby's daddy." Ooooohhh, I'm so excited---no committment required for personal relationships, responsibility, accountability etc......I bet these folks, when older, will have arbitraters for their children in school.....
No need to wait for the next generation....it's already here!!!



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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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Shakin' in my boots.....or shall I say shakin' in my Depends.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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