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Well, actually...for a super majority...they may have a shot. Ms. Marco has been somewhat mellow these days. Perhaps she wants to leave her seat on a good note and actually do something for the  'homeowners' as opposed  to the business owners, developers and landowners. As far as Godlewski....not a shot!!!


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IDK if she will be theswing vote or not.  You know that you can't count on Godlewski for anything nowadays.  Who knows, maybe since she said she'd give the study 1 more chance that she's willing to go with the actual fixing of the issue.
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I sure hope you're right about her voting for fixing the water problem because I know that Bob will never go for it.
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Last thing I remember is that for the last study, she stated that once and only once would she give it another shot.  Now, I don't remember how long ago that was, but that is my recollection.
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I don't put too much faith in Ms Marco, but it could only benefit her if she went along with the majority and end her political career on a positive note. Godlewski on the other hand....'forget abod it'!

After the Amedore/Kosiur race...the next on the agenda is making sure Mr. Godlewski does NOT get elected to the county legislature. Cause then we for sure won't get anything!


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I agree with you on that Bumble.
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ROTTERDAM
Panel to review final site plans for controversial development

BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter

   Rotterdam officials will consider final plans for Helderberg Meadows project this evening, nearly six months after members of the board voted to advance the controversial development.
   Members of the Planning Commission will hear final site plans for the project and consider a specialuse permit for the development. Donald Zee, an attorney representing the project, did not return a call for comment Monday.
   The project consists of 152 single family residential lots with the potential for up to 161 units to be built. The development will also include 100 condominium units on the 314-acre parcel of land off County Line Road and Guilderland Avenue, just south of the state Thruway.
   The development would be split by Guilderland Avenue and would include a total of 96 acres of woodland to be preserved as a conservation easement. The meeting is set for 7 p.m. at the Town Hall meeting room.
   More than 50 residents turned out to a contentious meeting in February, when the commission cleared an environmental hurdle for the decade-old project. The declaration allowed the developers to move forward through the planning and avoid an intensive review of the project under the state Environmental Quality Review Act.
   Residents opposed to the project point to existing drainage problems in the adjacent Masullo Estates development. Some feel the new project could face similar problems or possibly exacerbate the Masullo problems.
   But Zee and project engineers claim Helderberg Meadows is laid out in a way that would avoid such problems. The development would also be required to have a working sewer connection; this line could eventually extend into Masullo, which would help alleviate some of the development’s problems, the developers have said.
   Attempts to contact Planning Board Chairman Larry DiLallo and co-Chairman Frank Renna were unsuccessful Monday evening.  



  
  
  

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This development is going to get the go ahead from both the Planning Board and the Town Board because this project will bring in more tax base to the town and that's what's important to the town officials at this particular time. It doesn't matter what we think or do it's a done deal whether we like it or not. I drove thru Masullo Estates a couple of days ago and there was some paint sprayed on some of the roads and it looked like someone was doing a little surveying in lieu of maybe doing some work. I also noticed that some of the patches in the roads were patched also.
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The declaration allowed the developers to move forward through the planning and avoid an intensive review of the project under the state Environmental Quality Review Act.


Rethinking Rotterdam's development history,
The developer should be responsible
for the SEQRA study before development
was passed.
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I totally agree with you PoliticalIncorrect, but the town didn't want anything to derail this project from going thru. The town could have called for a SEQRA but I think they were afraid of what the review would disclose. A developer who wants to build this many houses in a known wetland is never going to have a study like that done. Neither the town or the developer would pay to have a hydrological study done as it's quite expensive but that's exactly what should have been done considering what type of area this is.
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The developer 'clearly' should have been required to have a SEQRA done. I would not purchase a home in that development and would encourage others the same...and to spred the word!! REALLY! Rotterdam can't and shouldn't take another Masullo Est..

And who is this developer anyways? I believe it is someone from Rotterdam who doesn't even live here year round. Someone should check that out!


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As far as I know there are a group, about 3 people, who bought the land where the proposed development is to be built. As soon as these owners get the ok from the town to build I have a feeling that the owners will sell the land to a developer to build the houses and condos. Right now I believe these land speculators are just doing the ground work to clear all the hurdles so that the land can be developed. They want to recoup the money that they have had invested in that land for the last 12 years, many of their ideas have been turned down in the past, ie the golf course debacle just to name one.
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I happen to know one. And he doesn't live in the area half the year as it is. I fear that they will construct this development, take the money, leave the area for good and leave a mess behind. I hope there is an accountability clause in this contract. Rotterdam can't afford another Masullo Est. A SEQRA should be done by the developer.


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Members of the Planning Commission will hear final site plans for the project and consider a specialuse permit for the development. Donald Zee, an attorney representing the project, did not return a call for comment Monday.


Talk about smoke up your a$%..........There is a word that can be used for ANYTHING....special use barbeque....special use blue light special.....special use open container law.....special use adult book/video store.....special use housing for sex offenders....blahh blahhh blahhh


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ROTTERDAM
Project gets OK after lengthy review
Helderberg plan covers 314 acres

BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter

   Helderberg Meadows, in its various incarnations, has been reviewed by three planning commission chairmen, four supervisors and dozens of Rotterdam officials.
   The town Planning Commission finally advanced the 314-acre development proposal Tuesday, marking an end to more than a decade of review and debate, and the beginning of one the largest residential developments in town. Members of the commission unanimously passed final site plans and a special-use permit for the development, which will construct 100 condominium units in two clusters and 152 houses on the parcel off Guilderland Avenue.
   “This is the largest project the town has seen in a long time,” Chairman Larry DiLallo told a gathering of about 20 attending the meeting. “The comments in the past, in my mind, have been addressed significantly,” he said.
   In total, the commission required 30 conditions for the development to advance, many of them pertaining to approvals needed on the county, state and federal levels. Among the other conditions, the developer will need to receive final approval for the two condominium clusters, dedicate roughly 190 acres of the land as open space guarded by a conservation easement, and pay $170,000 to the town’s parkland fund.
   The developers will also have to construct all of the infrastructure improvements to the property before building construction can begin. These improvements include a sewer line, three pump stations and a street from County Line Road past Guilderland Avenue to the north side of the development.
   Project Engineer Brett Steenburgh said the principals of Hel- derberg Meadows LLC. will now market the project to a contractor. He expects work on the infrastructure to begin next year.
   “Everybody involved is local and I think the builder will also be local,” he said.
   Once the infrastructure is completed, Steenburgh said construction could begin as early as the late summer in 2008. He said the phased project will build up to 50 homes per year on lots between 12,000 and 14,000 square feet; the condominium units will be among the first structures put up.
   Several residents echoed concerns raised about the project in February, when the commission allowed the developers to move forward through the planning and avoid an intensive review of the project under the state Environmental Quality Review Act. Del Pierce, a resident of nearby Ghents Road, said the drainage and traffic concerns prompted by the development are bound to cause problems in the future.
   “You said this is one of the biggest developments the town has seen in a long time,” he told the board. “My feeling is that it’s going to be one of the Planning Commission’s biggest mistakes.”
   Stan Karpinski of Jeannette Drive also feared the development’s impact. Since moving to his neighborhood in 1964, he said the drainage problem has gotten progressively worse.
   “It seems that the water table is getting higher,” he said. “There’s a major problem in the area.”
   But commission members said the new development wouldn’t aggravate the drainage problems, especially in Masullo Estates, immediately north of the project. Engineers with Helderberg said the infrastructure improvements coupled with the clearing of drainage pathways through the property will help mitigate some of the flooding in Masullo.
   Steenburgh is expected to present an engineering plan to town officials this month.  



  
  
  
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