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March 11, 2008, 1:05pm Report to Moderator
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Boy, I'm glad it isn't "politics as usual" here in the city ... youse guys got your hands full up there in r'dam.

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Cicero: Your alias betrays you with your political naivite'.  First off Denny the cop, Joe Signore's son's appt. and the police commission were issues better served when the architects run, namely Signore and Mertz.  Time will tell if turnout remains low when these Republican seek re-election.  John Mertz had his head handed to him by Paul Tonko and certainly has been a lightning rod for controversy even from within his own party.  Joe Signore will have to answer for his political maneuvering also during the next election.  As for Tomassone, he will no longer be able to "blame" John Paolino or John Maceijka for the re-val situation.  He will be held accountable for tax rate increases, out-of-control spending and bonding in addition to controversial appointments and police and CSEA contract negotiations. The employee workforce has increased ten-fold under Stevie "Wonder" Tomassone; all patronage for Republican operatives.

Now onto to bumble: the re-val was a bi-partisan effort from Paolino, Marco and Vellano.  Vellano was the deciding vote.  All three "visionaries" for progress.  Make the tax rolls fair, new developments happy and state aid over $65,000 in hand.  Tons of people went for help????  One ton equals 2,000 lbs. So by your embellished estimates "tons" means what 4,000, 6,0000, 8,000 people???  Macejaka did his job and it remains to be seen what the after effects of that hatchet job will do to Stevie Wonder's vote totals the next time around.  The assessor ( John) is a great public servant who should have been commended for his efforts by the administration for enduring the fallout from a long overdue project that was not his doings.  Never good politics in Rotterdam to besmirch politically savvy families and friends.  
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March 11, 2008, 7:53pm Report to Moderator
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New York State Office of
Real Property Services
16 Sheridan Avenue, Albany, NY 12210-2714
Press
Release
For Release: Immediate – September 5, 2007
Contact: Geoffrey Gloak, Director of Public Information
Phone: (51 486-3418
Town of Rotterdam Receives Assessment Award from the State
The Town of Rotterdam has qualified for the New York State Office of Real Property Services’
(NYSORPS) 2007 Excellence in Equity Award. Rotterdam qualified for the award by
conducting a reassessment that met state standards for equitable assessments. This marks the
town’s first year receiving the award since the program’s inception in 1999.
NYSORPS Executive Director Donald C. DeWitt said, “I commend Assessor John J. Macejka
for his efforts to provide fair assessments for the town’s taxpayers. I also commend the elected
local officials who support the assessor’s efforts.”
“Many taxpayers do not realize that reassessments do not raise additional taxes for
municipalities,” Mr. DeWitt added. “Rather, reassessments help to ensure that the taxes to be
collected by the school district, county, and city or town are distributed fairly. The taxpayer is
the ultimate beneficiary of fair assessments.”
Local officials will be presented with the award by a representative of the State Office of Real
Property Services.
State Law requires all properties in each municipality to be assessed fairly based on market value
(or a uniform percentage thereof), each year. By adjusting assessments to reflect market value,
Rotterdam took the necessary steps to ensure that property owners are fairly assessed and do not
pay more or less than their fair share of taxes.
When assessments are not adjusted to reflect current market values, property owners who are
overassessed will actually subsidize the tax bills of those who are underassessed.
In addition to qualifying for Excellence in Equity Awards, Rotterdam may be eligible to apply
for State Aid for Quality Assessing. This program grants up to $5 per parcel aid to qualifying
municipalities and includes:
• Annual Aid for municipalities that commit to keeping all assessments at market value for
a six-year period. Up to $5 per parcel is available each year.
• Triennial Aid for municipalities conducting a reassessment at market value without
committing to maintaining equity in subsequent years. Up to $5 per parcel is available
no more than once every three years.
For additional information regarding assessment administration in New York State and State Aid
for Quality Assessing, please visit the NYSORPS webpage: http://www.orps.state.ny.us

Tons of people.  C'mon bumble your color's are showing through your desperation for political acceptence next time out.  Read it and weep my friend this will def. be fodder in the next campaign.
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Stevie "Wonder" Tomassone;


What is it with the name calling? Wasn't that supposed to end by the time you got to second grade? This is at least the second time I've seen you say this - it really makes me think you're still in Pre-K.
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Many people in this town were over assessed by the reval and when they went to Mr Macejka they were ignored. Some people had to have their house assessed by a professional and were found to be over valued by many thousands of dollars, far below what they could sell their house for on the open market. The complaint was the fact that the assessment wasn't done fairly, granted we needed a reval to bring all the homes in Rotterdam up to full assessment so we'd be able to get state aid which we wouldn't be able to get unless we were at full assessed value. When a reval is done usually 1/3 of the houses have the tax drop, 1/3 have the tax on their homes stay the same, and 1/3 of the of the homes have their taxes go up. I haven't talked to many people who have had their taxes go down, most everyone's taxes have gone up. Many residents met with GAR and Macejka trying to reach a fair assessment and now all property values are down and we're being taxed at a rate well above the market value of our homes and you call that fair?
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March 11, 2008, 8:16pm Report to Moderator
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I believe Bob Godlewski, Diane Marco, Tony Jasenski, Judy Dagostino, Susan Savage, Brian Stratton, Tony Cervera, Brian Quail, John Paolino every dem public official for that matter have all endured name calling, nicknames etc.  Hey Eliot Spitzer has been called various names of late.  If Stevie "Wonder" Tomassone can't figure out the nickname I for one won't be surprised. IMHO it fits.  I like it and we shall see if it sticks.  Many of us lurkers find this Republican love fest board to be informative and full of opinions without counter points from independent thinkers.  I am having a blast.  Sorry to crash the party boys and girls but the last time I checked free speech is still in our mighty constitution.  Yippe cai yea!!!!!!!  
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March 11, 2008, 8:26pm Report to Moderator
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So, you have no expectations of progressing past the second grade?  I'm glad you didn't set your sights high, when you crash/burn you won't have far to fall.
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March 11, 2008, 8:27pm Report to Moderator
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Shadow-quit your whining and go talk to the new assessor.  See what he tells you about your so-called unfair assessment.  Oh and by the way I know many people who are happy with the re-val because they now see that fair assessments are town wide and the real culprit of sky rocketing tax bills is the elected officials who determine tax rates.  Steve Tomassone knows the tax rate decrese in town taxes was because of the re-val and he survived politically because of it.  Wait till next time.  Drunken sailor spending catches up with you as does bonding, mandated increses, pie in the sky infrastructure gimmicks, absurd PILOT agreements on and on.  Oh its gonna be fun!!!!  
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I have talked to the new assessor and he seems to be a very fair individual but there's nothing that he can do right now about the reval it's a done deal. There have been Democratic hacks like you, PDQ, before and I sure hope you guys run Godlewski again because he doesn't have a chance because he has no vision for the future and will be badly beaten. Elliot Spitzer is going to be a convicted felon and shouldn't be allowed to hold office in any capacity. I hope you have a good time PDQ we welcome all opinions here, opinions are like you know what, and everybody has one.
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Cicero: Your alias betrays you with your political naivite'.  First off Denny the cop, Joe Signore's son's appt. and the police commission were issues better served when the architects run, namely Signore and Mertz.  Time will tell if turnout remains low when these Republican seek re-election.  John Mertz had his head handed to him by Paul Tonko and certainly has been a lightning rod for controversy even from within his own party.  Joe Signore will have to answer for his political maneuvering also during the next election.  As for Tomassone, he will no longer be able to "blame" John Paolino or John Maceijka for the re-val situation.  He will be held accountable for tax rate increases, out-of-control spending and bonding in addition to controversial appointments and police and CSEA contract negotiations. The employee workforce has increased ten-fold under Stevie "Wonder" Tomassone; all patronage for Republican operatives.


Mertz and Signore formed a police commission, hired and promoted officers without Mr. Tomassone's authorization? I find that hard to believe.  Judging by the mailers sent out, the Democrats seemed to think they could pin these fabricated issues on Mr. Tomassone during his re-election.  Update.......It didn't work.....Landslide.  The residents had the chance to negate the super majority.....they didn't.

The political landscape of Rotterdam has changed.  The General Electric tax base is gone.  The residents can't afford to pander to the police or teachers unions and pay for $95,000 retired cops or $80,000 teachers with $28,000 medical benefits, and they certainly don't want anyone in office who might.  But.....you can continue to pit the residents against those who's salaries are paid for by the residents.  Maybe it'll work out for ya....What do I know.



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I still dont understand everyone's beef about the re-val----here's the deal dollar store spenders....if your house isn't worth that much then your neighbors house isn't far behind,,,,now they put their house up for sale and who moves in but the person that can afford it....who might that be considering we live right next door to the city----integrity challenged folks who like to keep leather couches on their front porches.....And dont complain when you cant sell your house because of the couch on your new neighbors porch......

geez....would you buy a diamond hoping it will devalue????  Oh, and BTW, the world isn't fair and if you continue to compare your house to others---that will lead to being integrity challenged....or the "I deserve it" group......


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Exactly my point Shadow there was nothing Maceajka could do either.  The re-val was a done deal for him also. But to put a guy out on the street for doing his job.  I don't think so.  Did your assessment or the 500 or 600 other disgruntled residents see a change in their assessment because of Maceajka's ouster??  Nope and you know what it ain't gonna happen any time soon.  The political winds of the re-val have died down and will not be an issue in 2009.  I am amazed at the number of people who by nature are unfair.  For years not paying their fair share of the pie and they crow about Maceaka's not doing his job.  He did his job and was honored for his achievements.  Too bad the Tomassone administration punked out and put a hometown "hero" on the street.    
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It is still East VS West Rotterdam.....the east border is on the front line to the area of the city that Mr.Stratton happens not to notice.....maybe the kids will play better in the future,,,but,,,in the mean time there is a dissident and it will grow.......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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State Law requires all properties in each municipality to be assessed fairly based on market value
(or a uniform percentage thereof), each year. By adjusting assessments to reflect market value,
Rotterdam took the necessary steps to ensure that property owners are fairly assessed and do not
pay more or less than their fair share of taxes.
Sorry there PDQ, but this was not a fair assessment. Do you know that GAR actually assessed a home that had been torn down 2 years before? Do you know that GAR never even went to some of these properties to see them so they could be assessed? Do you know how many homes that went from 1200 sq ft to 2100 sq ft over the years and GAR never did a new assessment on them?

No one is saying they don't want to pay their 'fair share'. But it isn't fair! And I personally went to Macejeka and he was a joke. That was his job and he did absolutely nothing. So I am soooo happy that he is GONE!!!

I appreciate another point of view...but yours is nothing new. You are nothing more than a democratic, mudslinging hack.

You are nothing more than a democratic, mudslinging hack.



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Landslide is when you have an overwhelming mandate from a MAJORITY of all enrolled voters.  Steve T. totals were alarmingly low for an incumbent who had everthing going his way because of the re-val windfall.  Sure the Dems have thier work cut out for them but Rotterdam has been a traditionally Democtartic Town and I think its safe to say it is an attainable election next time out.

Hey, Siggy got bounced after two terms, Paolino served two and I think when the time comes Steve T and the "boys" will be fighting for their political lives.  Time will tell.
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