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Carl Strock THE VIEW FROM HERE
Carl Strock can be reached at 395-3085 or by e-mail at carlstrock@dailygazette.com.
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   Very well. Last month Schenectady’s new public safety commissioner, Wayne Bennett, announced that he was going to assume control of discipline in the Schenectady Police Department and dispense with outside arbitrators, based on a little-noticed Court of Appeals decision from the previous year.
   He said arbitrators’ decisions had been “very, very inconsistent” and sometimes “outrageous.” It was clearly a move to assert authority over a department that has been tarnished by scandal over the years, as first one officer and then another was convicted of criminal conduct.
   And it was heartily endorsed by Mayor Brian Stratton, who said it would help instill integrity in the department.
   No more reliance on outsiders assigned by the Public Employment Relations Board. The boss would be the boss.
   That was on June 4. Seventeen days later a bill came to the floor of the state Assembly negating the Court of Appeals decision that had made Bennett’s move possible and mandating that arbitration be employed in all cases of police discipline, regardless of what local law might require, thereby undermining the efforts of Bennett and Stratton as well as other mayors and public safety commissioners across the state.
   The bill was almost certainly written by police unions and simply handed to the Legislature.
   How do you suppose the two Assembly members who represented the city of Schenectady at the time, Paul Tonko and Jim Tedisco, voted on that bill? Well, from the way I have set up the question, you won’t be surprised to learn they voted in favor of it. In other words, they voted to cancel Commissioner Bennett’s authority to do what he said he needed to do in order to restore integrity to the Police Department.
   Second question: Do you suppose either Tonko or Tedisco consulted with the mayor or with the commissioner before casting that fateful vote.
   Answer: No, they did not.
   The bill passed, 146 to 4, with the four dissenting votes coming from other parts of the state, and if there was anything amazing about this it was only that there were as many four Assembly members willing to defy the police unions.
   In the Senate, a month earlier, the vote had been unanimous, 61-0, and included the vote of Schenectady’s man, Sen. Hugh Farley.
   (“Don’t underestimate the power of the police lobby,” Stratton told me.)
   Naturally I asked these public servants why they voted as they did.
   Then-Assemblyman Tonko (he has since taken a state authority job) said he believed “the negotiated outcomes” — meaning arbitrators’ decisions — “have not compromised the delivery of public services,” and since other public employees have access to arbitration, “providing uniformity was important.”
   In other words, gobbledygook.
   His counterpart, Jim Tedisco, did not respond to my phone calls or e-mails, and I can’t say I blame him, since I’m sure he knew where I was headed with this.
   Sen. Farley noted that in the Senate the bill passed on a so-called fast roll call, meaning unanimous passage with no debate, just a rubber-stamp process for something already approved by the leadership.
   “I didn’t give it a great deal of thought,” he admitted. “There wasn’t a whisper of controversy,” which didn’t surprise me in the least.
   What he would not say and what no legislator will ever say is the simple truth, which is that the police unions and other public employee unions have tremendous influence in Albany because of the money they contribute and their ability to mobilize the vote, and it’s very dangerous to go against them just as it’s very dangerous to go against your own leadership. At the next election you’re liable to find yourself with a well-funded opponent with a telephone-tree of activists getting out the vote against you.
   All these unions basically have the Legislature in their pocket. And please note it makes no difference if the legislators are Republicans or Democrats. Farley and Tedisco are Republicans, Tonko is a Democrat. The Senate is Republican-controlled, the Assembly is Democratic-controlled. They all vote the same.
   As for the people of Schenectady, the people who have long endured a police department shamed by misconduct, a police department widely believed to be out of control, too bad for them.
   In the first place they probably won’t notice a vote on some obscure bill “to amend the civil service law, in relation to the negotiability of discipline affecting public employees,” as it was offi - cially described, and in the second place, the people of Schenectady don’t have the organized clout of the police unions. So too bad for them.
   Commissioner Bennett and Mayor Stratton will just have to pull their horns back and let the rank-and-file cops continue to make monkeys out of them, or at least they’ll have to if Gov. Spitzer signs the bill into law.
   We’ll wait and see on that one. It sometimes seems the legislators pass these outrageous bills in the confidence that the governor, of whichever party, will veto them. Gov. Pataki vetoed a bunch of them last year, and Gov. Spitzer has already vetoed some this year.
   I’ll be watching to see what Gov. Spitzer does with this one.
   Sen. Farley actually said, “My only advice is if Mayor Stratton and Commissioner Bennett are concerned they ought to ask for it to be vetoed,” which I thought was interesting, coming from him.
   The bill number, by the way, is S-5295 and A-8139 if you want to track it yourself.
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All the money has been going to the city in recent years and the rest of Schdy county can fend for themselves. As Senders would say follow the money trail.
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Okay folks...you read it...now remember it on election day. [b]VOTE TEDISCO OUT!!![/b] He isjust another pandering politician owned and run by the police union! He very clearly is NOT looking out for the interests of the people he represents. And we should make a list of ALL 146 that voted in favor of this and post them here. This truly is a pathetic discrace of political manipulation by the police unions! SPD is the most corrupt and yet Tedisco sways their way? THIS IS REDICULOUS!

VOTE TEDISCO OUT in the next election!


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“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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CONSOLIDATION....CONSOLIDATION....CONSOLIDATION...........remember we are at war with 'terror'......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The PBA wins again, and again the politicians are afraid of losing votes if they oppose the police union.
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No more reliance on outsiders assigned by the Public Employment Relations Board. The boss would be the boss.


Would that be PERB....or.....PERP...??????


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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No more reliance on outsiders assigned by the Public Employment Relations Board. The boss would be the boss.


Would that be PERB....or.....PERP...??????


Guess it should be the Public Employment Relations Panel.

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Again our elected officials have drawn a line in the sand and proved what side of the isle they are on. And it is clearly not the side of the isle that represents the people. So we are not only footing the bill for our elected officials, but we are also footing the bill for the cops. Nice little racket they have going for themselves...wouldn't ya say? We need to rally the troops people and vote these pathetic, call themselves representatives of the people, OUT!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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And how do yu suppose the right person get the nomination of one of the parties to start to make that difference?
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That's one great cartoon it would be even funnier if it wasn't so true.
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I think it would have been funnier if it were fully true, get B.S. and his "fund" standing behind the union, pulling it's strings.
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Ahhhhh....good point BK. Aren't there some computer people out there that could  doctor up the cartoon and put Stratton right next to or 'behind' the union cop? Now that would be toooooooo true!!! Perhaps Kosiur could be imaged in there too.


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8 charged with patronizing prostitutes  
Friday, July 13, 2007

SCHENECTADY - City and state police charged eight men Friday with misdemeanor patronizing a prostitute.
  
The arrests were the result of a initiative that targeted customers, city police said. The men range in age from 29 to 66 and live all over the Capital Region.

City police said it would publish the names, addresses and photographs of the men on its Web site, http://www.schenectadypd.com, as a means of discouraging "others who may consider patronizing a prostitute in Schenectady."

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Okay....and now what about the prostitutes? What was their punishment? And who is the victim and who is the perpetrator here? Putting these guys pictures and names/addresses on the SPD website is rediculous! What will this be incorporated in the new 'sex offender' law as well?

So any registered 'prostitute offender' will not be allowed 2000' within a female's presence. Sound obsurd? So does putting their picture, name and address on the SPD website! And to think we pay these people!


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