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BIGK75
September 28, 2007, 4:01pm Report to Moderator
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And to second all that, isn't the COUNTY supposed to be working all through the COUNTY?  If they have funds that are supposed to do a job in a specific area, they should be giving those funds to that municipality (in the case of Metroplex, it would mostly be the city of Schenectady), then step back and see what the municipality does and keep their hands off.
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Rene
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Nothing says class like getting all dressed up for a night out, going to Proctors to see Phantom of the Opera, and then finishing the night off with a couple of burittos at Bombers Buritto Bar.  Susan Savage has a wonderful vision of downtown Schenectady.  I haven't been downtown in years, but now that I know there is a buritto bar, there's no place else in the area I would go.  


  Too funny Cicero!!!!ROFLOL
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Nothing says class like getting all dressed up for a night out, going to Proctors to see Phantom of the Opera, and then finishing the night off with a couple of burittos at Bombers Buritto Bar.  Susan Savage has a wonderful vision of downtown Schenectady.  I haven't been downtown in years, but now that I know there is a buritto bar, there's no place else in the area I would go.  

Now I understand why they haven't tried to relocate the head shops on jay Street......It fits the Morris/Savage vision of downtown.  Coffee shops, head shops, studio apartments.  They're turning it into hippie heaven.  These hippie's Morris and Savage want to turn downtown Schenectady into Haight St. and Ashbury.  Next thing Metroplex will be moving downtown, if it isn't already, is the free clinic.


I thought I'd spit out the water I was drinking when I read these posts!! Great Visual!





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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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How about everyone who was going to the Phantom having dinner BEFORE the show---burritos all around.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Quote of Joe Suhrada's platform. "I would like to see the sales tax re-distributed to the municipalities who produce it as well. Instead of the old way of using it as a plum for the politically powerful democrat machine in the city, distribute it fairly."










Quote from Santabarbara website:  
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Establish Metroplex oversight to ensure the suburbs are not overlooked with economic development initiatives


This is a quote from Santabarbara's political flyer:  
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"Work with Metroplex to ensure investments are made in Rotterdam, Princetown, and Duanesburg."  

"Make sure our Towns get their fare share of the Metroplex sales tax."


This quote was from Joe Suhrada posted on the Schenectady message board. Rene copied and posted it here.
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Last night these was something really bizarre. Legislator Kosiur started to attack Mrs. Lazzari about the restoration of her historic Dutch Barn, which she saved from it's fate via a 25K grant and 50K of her own money. Apparently the Democrat mud machine has "dug up" the fact that she was awarded a historic preservation grant on her 1740's property, and are intent to make her look like a criminal for doing so.


It is ironic that a republican/conservative county legislator recieved tax dollars to fix her personal propery.  After all she's supposed to be looking out for the taxpayer?  I guess $25K to fix her property up was beneficial to the county taxpayer somehow.


Article about Peter Guidarelli:
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Former Schenectady mayoral candidate Peter Guidarelli(R) has purchased the Wall Street Building in Schenectady. Guidarelli and his partners in Empire Edison LLC of Schenectady plan to invest $1 million to renovate the building, which at one point had been slated for demolition.

Empire Edison will receive an $80,000 matching grant from the Downtown Sche-nectady Improvement Corp. facade program, funded by the Schenectady Metroplex Development Authority.


It seems to me that all these so-called republicans don't want to limit government, as the true republican/conservative platform used to be....Instead of the democrats, republicans want to make sure that they have control of the tax dollars, and distribute it to who they see fit. Campaigning on the basis of retrieving your constituents tax dollars, and bringing it back to their district is socialism.  That is controling people with their own money.  I say disband Metroplex.  Get rid of govenment subsidies.  Give the taxpayers their money back, and let them make the decisions what to do with their money.  All of these politician have their hand in the taxpayers wallet.....Republican or democrat.   I say lower the taxes, and let the free markets work.  That is the only way Schenectady County will get out of this hole.  I have yet to hear a true conservative repulican campaign on the notion of empowering the people.  It just sounds like republicans are telling me that they can spend my tax dollars better than the democrats can.


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Do these people draw a salary? And if so, how much and paid by whom?

Schenectady Metroplex Development Authority Board of Directors
Ray Gillen, Chair
Bradley G. Lewis, Vice Chair
Kenneth Bulko, Treasurer
Neil M. Golub
Janet Hutchison
Sharon A. Jordan
Robert J. Mantello
Gary McCarthy
David Sterman
Robert L. Wall

Schenectady Metroplex Development Authority Administrative Staff
Jayme B. Lahut, Executive Director

James L. Callander, Director of Finance

Scott J. Cietek, Vice President-Economic Development

Peggy Chesebrough - Executive Secretary

Carol Brown - Office Assistant


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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They do all eat at the same trough,,,,and it is a-----"my plan and control of the tax revenues is the way to go"-----should socialism in the form of sewers be abolished?? or socialism in the form of street lights and sidewalks be abolished????  where is the line drawn? who gets to draw it?.....this is not the "wild west" anymore....Duanesburg can afford to stay as is---for now---until they start to build community centers named after politicians/teachers etc......community doesn't need government to make community....ruby ridge, waco, etc......civilization is a short step from mob rules.....it just depends on who's rules we accept.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Rene
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Cicero, Please read the below post I made in its entirety.  That includes the final paragraph indicating where the post came from. IT WAS NOT MY QUOTE.  I WAS NOT AT THE COUNTY MEETING AND NEVER INDICATED I WAS.  I copied and pasted a post from Pat Zollinger's site that Joe Suhrada posted.  Since your post is inaccurate and implies that I made the comments, I want it removed immediately.  Do not presume to know my stance on grant funds or anything else for that matter unless it comes directly from me, and DO NOT EVER LUMP ME IN WITH ANOTHER POLITICIAN.  Unfortunately, because of this incident I will remove myself from this site.  I do not care to be misquoted and have my words twisted. I say enough stupid things on my own and don't need the help of someone like you.  I thought this would be a fun and useful forum to be involved in, but I see now it was a mistake.  BK, Bumble, Senders, Z, and the rest of you, its been fun > >

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1 days 11 hours 12 minutes Last night these was something really bizarre. Legislator Kosiur started to attack Mrs. Lazzari about the restoration of her historic Dutch Barn, which she saved from it's fate via a 25K grant and 50K of her own money. Apparently the Democrat mud machine has "dug up" the fact that she was awarded a historic preservation grant on her 1740's property, and are intent to make her look like a criminal for doing so. What was worse is that the bitterness and bile was apparent when she had the floor and tried to set the record straight, is that the same legislator tried to interrupt her and say "what does this have to do with the debate.." or some such comment. I viciousness was apparent as the Democrats are besides themselves knowing that they only MAY have won the conservative primary by throwing out some of Mrs. Lazzari's votes due to technicalities. I really think they are coming unglued.

...if anyone gets to view the meeting they will be shocked at the behavior of the would-be assemblyman in his new role as attack dog. Mrs. Lazzari always acts like a lady and I am a little surprised that they would make themselves look so bad in a frontal attack like that. I urge you to view it on public access.

The above is a post on Pat Zollinger's site from Joe Suhrada.  I thought this was the most appropriate place to post it, but I have also stuck it in "Democrats, Off to a mudslinging start. By the way Joe,  I'm sad to say there isn't much more they could do that would shock me!!!!!!  Also, the best thing for Carolina in the west end of the county is for people to know she is not in the favor of Mr. Kosiur.  
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Rene
September 30, 2007, 8:47pm Report to Moderator
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Kind of liking making a pissed off exit and having to come back for your keys, but apparently I can't remove myself from the site,  Administrator, Can you do that for me please?  Thanks, Rene'
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Rene
September 30, 2007, 8:49pm Report to Moderator
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Oh and one more thing, the content I was hoping to bring to the attention of everyone was concerning the attack by Kosiur, that is why I copied and pasted it first in the mud slingling area.  Seems you got your own mud slinging to deal with here too.
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BIGK75
October 1, 2007, 5:07am Report to Moderator
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Rene,
Please don't leave.  We actually need you to help us bring some light on some of the major issues that are going on.  You have brought light to many things and we thank you for that.  You give us a look at things nobody else in this forum can give.  An actual statement from a local government head.  If we don't work through the hard stuff and find an appropriate answer, we will never get the answers.
Please, just give us some time to pull things back together.
Thanks,
Kevin
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Rene's quote was not in a quote box. It was assumed to be her quote. It was a "misunderstood mis-quote".

So corrections were made on both Rene's post and Cicero's.
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I guess if I don't say republicans are great, republicans can do no wrong, and turn a blind eye to the true ideology of these republican candidates, I'll be called a mud slinger on this forum.

I apologize for quoting Rene incorrectly. Her post was a little confusing on who said what.

I thought only this was Shurada's post from the Schenectady website.
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...if anyone gets to view the meeting they will be shocked at the behavior of the would-be assemblyman in his new role as attack dog. Mrs. Lazzari always acts like a lady and I am a little surprised that they would make themselves look so bad in a frontal attack like that. I urge you to view it on public access.


I thought this was your observation at a county meeting:

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Last night these was something really bizarre. Legislator Kosiur started to attack Mrs. Lazzari about the restoration of her historic Dutch Barn, which she saved from it's fate via a 25K grant and 50K of her own money. Apparently the Democrat mud machine has "dug up" the fact that she was awarded a historic preservation grant on her 1740's property, and are intent to make her look like a criminal for doing so. What was worse is that the bitterness and bile was apparent when she had the floor and tried to set the record straight, is that the same legislator tried to interrupt her and say "what does this have to do with the debate.." or some such comment. I viciousness was apparent as the Democrats are besides themselves knowing that they only MAY have won the conservative primary by throwing out some of Mrs. Lazzari's votes due to technicalities. I really think they are coming unglued


I stand corrected....And I appreciate you bringing to my attention the fact that Joe Shurada justified Mrs. Lazzari recieving a county grant to fix up he personal property....It further proves my point.....It's quite hypocritical for republicans to dip in the taxpayers wallet for their personal use, and then turn around and say shame on the democrats when they spend tax money.  We have not one true conservative republican in Schenectady County in my humble opinion.


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Well there is one thing for sure here Cicero....you are clearly bi-partisan!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Rene
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Cicero,
JoAnn convinced me stay on the forum.  I also knew I would need to respond to you since I am not one to leave things undone.  I sincerely apologize to you for the mudslinging comment, I was angry and it was unfair.  I will need to figure out how you guys get that fancy quote box with the "quoted from" text.  This should eliminate any confusion in the future.  Sorry for my lack of computer skills related to the site.  Anyway, as far as grant money goes, I will offer my opinion now so you can quote me correctly   I have a love/hate feeling about them, mostly hate.  As a taxpayer, I know that we are all paying for the grant from whomever for whatever purpose it is for.  As Supervisor, I know we are all paying for the grant from whomever for whatever purpose it is for, butdo I turn down a grant?  For example, we (town) got a grant from the county for restrooms at the park, should I have said thanks but no thanks?  Maybe, but I couldn't do it.  The whole thing is relative, whether the grant is from the federal gov't, state, or local.  We are all paying for it as taxpayers.  
As for the political party comments, I'm pretty sure there are as many idiot Republicans as there are Democrats. As well, there are great people in both parties, and both  need to be held accountable. I don't think that we as voters hold our elected officials accountable, no one takes the time or really cares. Gotta tell ya though,  for the last eight years that I have served the community of D'burg I have been able to fly under the radar of politics. I have worked well with the county and never gave any consideration to the political party stuff. I had respect for the forum of the legislature and for Sue Savage herself.  Then the sex offender issue (Proctors/SCCC) came up.  I opposed the issue, not the party, nor the man taking credit, I mean't no disrespect to either but I have lost all respect for both the legislature as a representative body for the people and, I am really sorry to say, for the Chairwoman too.  I hope that can change back in the future.  I'm off the metrople issue of this thread, lets continue this one elsewhere if you want.  I hope we are OK
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