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Since I am not "from the left", I can say that there is NO guarantee that Mohawk will service Rotterdam better. 10 cents per thousand is a SMALL price to pay for a local service that saves lives.
If you went any further to the left you would fall off the planet...so please, continue leftward. There is no guarantee that REMS will service the town any better than Mohawk either...the difference is that with Mohawk, the USERS will pay for the service, as it should be. Of course it is a "small" price now...when everyone is paying for the service of a few...it's called SOCIALISM Ron...a central theme of the looney left...otherwise known as the Demokrat Party. The "small" price of socialized EMS will increase rapidly and exponentially...just as all "social" programs do. |
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If you went any further to the left you would fall off the planet...so please, continue leftward.
There is no guarantee that REMS will service the town any better than Mohawk either...the difference is that with Mohawk, the USERS will pay for the service, as it should be.
Of course it is a "small" price now...when everyone is paying for the service of a few...it's called SOCIALISM Ron...a central theme of the looney left...otherwise known as the Demokrat Party. The "small" price of socialized EMS will increase rapidly and exponentially...just as all "social" programs do.
You are just plain looney -- you are an embarassment to real conservatives -- by your logic there would be absolutely NO government services .. next you will want to privatize the military ... how about privatizing all the public roads? tax payer funding of REMS is NOT socialism .. it is providing a public service |
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You wouldn't know a real conservative if one tore a chunk out of your fat a$$ Ron...and you know nothing about me or my logic...at least my logic is based in reality. You are comparing apples and oranges. The military cannot be privatized, but it a necessary entity to provide for national defense...a distinct function of governement. If it were up to you and your Party, there would be no military. The UNNECESSARY taxpayer funding of a service available in the private sector at no cost to taxpayers IS socialism. It comes as no surprise that you and your Party would prefer the socialist route, as they have nothing but contempt for private business and capitalism. |
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The UNNECESSARY taxpayer funding of a service available in the private sector at no cost to taxpayers IS socialism.
This just about sums it up!!!! Supporting a taxing district and promising taxpayer's money to bail out a defunct service, is ridiculous and bizarre to say the least. And DVR....your fear rhetoric is unsubstantiated. REMS was awol for how many month/years??? And what service handled rotterdam during that period? MOHAWK!!! And the taxpayers of rotterdam were STILL paying for REMS, who was awol!!! Mohawk, a private, solid business, did a fine job. This is clearly a non-issue!! IMHO And gadfly is dead on! Her approach my be unconventional, but KR knows more about REMS and Mohawk than anyone else. And she doesn't use 'fear rhetoric' to make a point.........just facts! IMHO |
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You wouldn't know a real conservative if one tore a chunk out of your fat a$$ Ron...and you know nothing about me or my logic...at least my logic is based in reality. You are comparing apples and oranges. The military cannot be privatized, but it a necessary entity to provide for national defense...a distinct function of governement. If it were up to you and your Party, there would be no military. The UNNECESSARY taxpayer funding of a service available in the private sector at no cost to taxpayers IS socialism. It comes as no surprise that you and your Party would prefer the socialist route, as they have nothing but contempt for private business and capitalism.
You are spewing more of your venom and lies. I believe that ambulance service is a NECESSARY public service and worthy of taxpayer funding ... just because you disagree with my view does not make me an "evil, socialist" ... I just disagree happen to have a different opinion about the value of a publicly funded ambulance service. and no amount of your bashing and lies will change my opinion. |
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You are spewing more of your venom and lies.
I believe that ambulance service is a NECESSARY public service and worthy of taxpayer funding ... just because you disagree with my view does not make me an "evil, socialist" ... I just disagree happen to have a different opinion about the value of a publicly funded ambulance service. and no amount of your bashing and lies will change my opinion.
Where is she lying???? And these aren't just her 'opinions'. Many rotterdamians feel the exact same way! And actually her's and everyone else's opinions are actually based on good sound financial facts. This really is a no brainer for anyone with a half a brain. |
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Where is she lying???? And these aren't just her 'opinions'. Many rotterdamians feel the exact same way! And actually her's and everyone else's opinions are actually based on good sound financial facts. This really is a no brainer for anyone with a half a brain.
Many Rotterdamians feels the same way I do and their opinion (and mine) is actually based on good sound financial facts. So suporting REMS is a no brainer for anyone with half a brain. |
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When you can find a way to keep REMS solvent without increasing the burden on the taxpayers that would be a good sound financial plan. The figures for initially funding REMS are reasonable but you can rest assured that those cost will go up especially when new rigs must be purchased, insurance, salaries, and state mandated equipment and training must be followed the price tag will go up. Add those taxes on top of rising school, property, sales, state, federal taxes, and an increase on all fees and permits levied on the taxpayer are becoming unbearable. Many people have taken a down grade in order to keep their job, some have lost their jobs, and the future economic outlook is bleak and you want to just keep raising taxes to fund your social programs. That's why the Dems are not in very good standing with we the people right now and won't be for quite a while. |
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When you can find a way to keep REMS solvent without increasing the burden on the taxpayers that would be a good sound financial plan. The figures for initially funding REMS are reasonable but you can rest assured that those cost will go up especially when new rigs must be purchased, insurance, salaries, and state mandated equipment and training must be followed the price tag will go up. Add those taxes on top of rising school, property, sales, state, federal taxes, and an increase on all fees and permits levied on the taxpayer are becoming unbearable. Many people have taken a down grade in order to keep their job, some have lost their jobs, and the future economic outlook is bleak and you want to just keep raising taxes to fund your social programs. That's why the Dems are not in very good standing with we the people right now and won't be for quite a while.
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Many Rotterdamians feels the same way I do and their opinion (and mine) is actually based on good sound financial facts. So suporting REMS is a no brainer for anyone with half a brain.
You failed to answer my question......When REMS was awol and almost non existent, while the taxpayers were still footing the bill for them, who answered almost ALL of rotterdam's ambulance calls? And did they do a good job? Supporting REMS is a no brainer for sure. If you do support REMS (who has proven to be lacking in business sense),by imposing a taxing district on the taxpayers, during a recession/depression........you have NO BRAINS!!! IMHO!!! |
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Many Rotterdamians feels the same way I do and their opinion (and mine) is actually based on good sound financial facts. So suporting REMS is a no brainer for anyone with half a brain.
If it's such a "no brainer" and many Rotterdamians feel the same way as you in supporting a new taxing distirict. Then those half brainers sitting on the town board should have NO PROBLEM taking a PUBLIC POSITION FOR THE RECORD supporting the creation of this REMS new taxing district.DVOR, you have dinner with FDG, do you know if he supports a new taxing district? While you're at it, find out if Matt, Nicki, and Bob Gods support the new taxing district being put up for referendum. |
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If it's such a "no brainer" and many Rotterdamians feel the same way as you in supporting a new taxing distirict. Then those half brainers sitting on the town board should have NO PROBLEM taking a PUBLIC POSITION FOR THE RECORD supporting the creation of this REMS new taxing district.
DVOR, you have dinner with FDG, do you know if he supports a new taxing district? While you're at it, find out if Matt, Nicki, and Bob Gods support the new taxing district being put up for referendum.
You are free to ask them yourselves anytime and youmake it sound like I have had so many dinners with Mr. Del Gallo - when actually (not counting political fundraisers that I paid my own way for) -- I have had 1 lunch and twice been invited to his Labor Day cookout. |
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You are free to ask them yourselves anytime and youmake it sound like I have had so many dinners with Mr. Del Gallo - when actually (not counting political fundraisers that I paid my own way for) -- I have had 1 lunch and twice been invited to his Labor Day cookout.
Well, you support the current town board and their actions up to this point. I thought you may have had at least FDG's positon on the REMS taxing districts since it's a pretty hot button issue. I would expect that being the newly elected town leaders, they would articulate their postion either in support or opposition, on this tough issue of creating a taxing district. You know, show some leadership. It's a pretty radical concept. |
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Well, you support the current town board and their actions up to this point. I thought you may have had at least FDG's positon on the REMS taxing districts since it's a pretty hot button issue. I would expect that being the newly elected town leaders, they would articulate their postion either in support or opposition, on this tough issue of creating a taxing district. You know, show some leadership. It's a pretty radical concept.
I know the position of at least 1 of the 3 - and you are free to ask them like I did |
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I believe they were asked. they clearly skirted the issue and didn't take a stand either way. |
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