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TippyCanoe
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the Dirge of the Bleeding Hearts will begin promply at 7:10(public comment on agenda items)  this wed evening at the door to the large meeting room at town hall

there will be NO logic at this meeting


Talking to each other is better than talking about each other
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There's no such thing as a free lunch or a free ambulance service. The town supported the volunteer ambulance service along with donations collected by the fire departments who housed them. The service was never free.


You're right Shadow... it was never free...only to certain users of the service....like REMS sympathizers. Even their new ambulances
were purchased by tax dollars. The Mohawk option is the only way to stop all unnecessary public subsidies for this service...once
and for all.
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Yeah sympathy and emotion have no business being considered when decided on who is best suited to provided emergency care in our town.... i dont have a dog in this fight but to claim that emotion and sympathy are irrelevant just shows how out of touch KR is with reality...Im not saying one is better than the other but to say that emotion is irrelevant is just plain stupid.....
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Which service provides the highest degree of medical care for the most reasonable cost and best benefit to the town and taxpayers.
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Which service provides the highest degree of medical care for the most reasonable cost and best benefit to the town and taxpayers.



...and make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.


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Quoted from black spidey
Yeah sympathy and emotion have no business being considered when decided on who is best suited to provided emergency care in our town.... i dont have a dog in this fight but to claim that emotion and sympathy are irrelevant just shows how out of touch KR is with reality...Im not saying one is better than the other but to say that emotion is irrelevant is just plain stupid.....



Well Spidey what can I say. I respectfully disagree...

The decision as to who can best serve the Town is about the best range of care, coverage and financial best interest of the Town.
Those who believe that emotion should be any guide in these decisions are the ones detached from reality, IMO....the same
realities REMS always avoids in their arguments.  
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There are many elderly and disabled residents who may take a fall or need assistance. REMS responds with a smile and a kind word, and does not charge.


The author of the Letter to the Editor is another example of those who believe that others
should pay for what they receive.  Is it that she doesn't believe that the services rendered
have value?  Or, does she simply want to pay for services with other peoples' money?

Her statement makes her appear selfish IMHO
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maybe we should ask a first responder which is right

logic or emotion?


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There's a time and place for bedside manor and it sure isn't when you need fast quality care in an emergency.
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why cant there be both good bedside manner and good care? and are you all saying its a given taht mohawk doesnt have good bedside manner? if so thats not exactly all that positive an outlook
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All we're saying is that quality care is more important than bedside manor when there is an emergency health issue. When the first responders are dealing with a life or death matter there is little time for idle chit chat unless all you need is a free ride to the hospital for a minor problem.
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I'd say quality care includes the other things, no?
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Quoted from black spidey
Yeah sympathy and emotion have no business being considered when decided on who is best suited to provided emergency care in our town.... i dont have a dog in this fight but to claim that emotion and sympathy are irrelevant just shows how out of touch KR is with reality...Im not saying one is better than the other but to say that emotion is irrelevant is just plain stupid.....


warm and fuzzy is just another podium puck for the politicos to scare us or make us FEEL empowered and important.....

I just filed my income tax and I'm pretty pissed off.....and it really doesn't matter what the warm and fuzzies are when speaking about government
subsidised ANYTHING....

GET OFF MY BACK.....

right now a broken leg would 'feel' better than filing MY INCOME taxes....get it? MINE....NOT YOURS, SUZIES OR MIKEYS....MINE.....

and if you want a warm fuzzy touch----get it from your loved ones, either family/friends/church etc......I dont get paid enough (government takes
MY hard earned money for others as they see fit) to make you feel all warm and fuzzy,,,,,,, no one can afford 'warm and fuzzy', not to mention
it's SUBJECTIVE.....and apparently so is our elected leaders version of 'rich'........GET OFF MY BACK


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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A first responder is just that.....first responding to your bodily fluids leaking all over the place.....no bedside manner needed when plugging them.....it's just that
mechanical.....and the job gets done...the rest is up to the injured to thrive.....that's just how it is....

maybe the IRS needs a better bedside manner too....or how about your local banker....or how about those elected officials that screw you then procede to get promoted
to made up positions to smoke their cigarette after screwing us in plain sight.....how's that for bedside manners.....

I dont want bedside manners------GET OFF MY BACK


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I think you are all splitting hairs here. Of course one expects the best emergency medical care from their emergency provider. that's a given.

However, putting a patient and loved ones at ease during the process is also expected. A patient's positive mental attitude while receiving professional medical care is just as important.Ya know.....'relax', 'you're gonna be fine', 'we're gonna do the best we can to save your loved one'.

If one is void of this compassion and human understanding while providing medical assistance, they shouldn't be in the medical field. IMHO


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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