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There should never have been a costly referendum because the tax was never necessary.


No there should have never been this costly unnecessary vote. But you're talking rotterdam here. Where people, places and things are defined by politics......not what is best for the taxpayers.

This was perhaps the best thing that could have happened to rems. If they play their cards right, they just may end up thevictor here as a viable business. That is all the rotterdam taxpayers wanted. And this is what the rotterdam town board should have also supported. It would have saved the taxpayers a few thousand in that vote.


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No there should have never been this costly unnecessary vote. But you're talking rotterdam here. Where people, places and things are defined by politics......not what is best for the taxpayers.

This was perhaps the best thing that could have happened to rems. If they play their cards right, they just may end up thevictor here as a viable business. That is all the rotterdam taxpayers wanted. And this is what the rotterdam town board should have also supported. It would have saved the taxpayers a few thousand in that vote.


       Plus $10,000 dollars/month over two years of Town subsidies!
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I believe that  D’Amico is an old acquaintance of FDG. It is hard sometimes to separate decades of friendship with actual performance.


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       Plus $10,000 dollars/month over two years of Town subsidies!



Plus the untold costs of the purchased property owners list acquired from NYS...the cost of the vote itself...the cost of
SUBCONTRACTED mailing...the massive loss of funds from ALS service.

I FOILed for all of the costs associated with the referendum and none have ever been answered. I called FDG and demanded that
he tell Little Joe to cough up those records or get lost so we can find a Town Attorney who will do their job....he called immediately...I
was contacted by the Clerk's Office the next day to tell me they had the property owner list for $138. Too bad I filed another FOIL two
weeks before the referendum telling that midget NEVERMIND ! I got the list for FREE in TEN MINUTES...but I still wanted the exact
source and COST of that list. He purposely ignored the initial request knowing I was on the "NO" side and what I would use it for.
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Everyone will eventually get to the hospital. The best anyone can ever do is LEARN BLS and dont wait for someone else to wipe your a**......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Rotterdam EMS tax district on hold
Most residents left before it came up near end of 4-hour meeting

By PAUL GRONDAHL Staff Writer
Published: 12:00 a.m., Sunday, January 2, 2011

ROTTERDAM -- A controversial proposal to create a special tax district to keep Rotterdam Emergency Medical Services afloat after voters overwhelmingly rejected it last month was tabled following a lengthy Town Board meeting Saturday.

Most town residents, worn down by more than four hours of discussion on dozens of agenda items, had left the New Year's Day session by the time the matter of the future of the town's ambulance service came up.

"It was such a marathon meeting there was nobody there by the time the REMS item was brought up," said Robert Godlewski, deputy supervisor. Saturday's meeting lasted far longer than the typical one or two hours.

Godlewski was surprised that the matter of a new REMS tax district was tabled without any action taken.

"I was under the impression from discussions I had that the board was going to amend the resolution and pass it today," he said. "They didn't do that and I don't know why."

There had been speculation raised before Saturday's meeting that the Town Board might try to do an end run by making an amendment, essentially nullifying the referendum vote and passing the REMS plan anyway.

By tabling the issue, a showdown was put off between those in favor of the REMS plan and those opposed................>>>>...............>>>>...............Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/defa.....09.php#ixzz19tHG1kaw
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Am I to understand from this Times Union article that (at least some on) the Rotterdam Town Board are now attempting
to create the ambulance tax district against the wishes of the property owners who voted by 2:1 margin against it?  Weren't
these councilpersons elected to represent their constituents?  
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Am I to understand from this Times Union article that (at least some on) the Rotterdam Town Board are now attempting
to create the ambulance tax district against the wishes of the property owners who voted by 2:1 margin against it?  Weren't
these councilpersons elected to represent their constituents?  


No...this is in fact what Ms DiLeva is trying to avoid in tabling the resolution until the Medical Board can be reconfigured, and given the
authority to review proposals and accept bids.
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Ok.  Thanks Gadfly.  This doesn't come across clearly in the article.
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There had been speculation raised before Saturday's meeting that the Town Board might try to do an end run by making an amendment, essentially nullifying the referendum vote and passing the REMS plan anyway.


Looks like they're setting the table for Brian McGarry's campaign for Supervisor.  You wanna piss people off by dragging them out for a vote in mid December, waiting in line for 45mins to an hour to vote, now they are talking about nullifying the results of such a lop sided outcome?  Holy Sh!t!!  Would having a referundum or the nullification of this referendum be considered a "willful and corrupt conduct in office"?  

I know NYS doesn't have a provision for recall elections - how do you impeach a Town Supervisor?


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Call me ignorant.....but how can the town bring in a new agency when Rems holds the certificate of need? Jw
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What certificate?


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Call me ignorant.....but how can the town bring in a new agency when Rems holds the certificate of need? Jw


It is my understanding that both have a CON...Mohawk has one county wide
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Having a CON (Certificate Of Need) should play no role in this issue. The FACT is that REMS can not sustain themselves without taxpayer money. They stated that they were in need of new and/or updated equipment/ambulances that they can not afford....again without taxpayer money. They have already lost the $120K/year that the taxpayers were giving them. And they couldn't sustain themselves even WITH that.

So again....this isn't personal....it is FACTUAL! Rotterdam will eventually be without ambulance service so they should act now and act accordingly and responsibly for their residents by placing this out to bid.......before it is too late.

Also, the idea of voiding the referendum for the taxing district would not only be political suicide....but the residents who came out in droves, in bad weather and waited almost an hour to vote AGAINST this unnecessary tax, would be storming the town hallwith pitchforks in hand.

And rotterdam wonders why there are third party candidates??? They almost got screwed by the rep administration....will the dems attempt to do the same? hmmmmmm


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