Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

My guess is that the most vocal critics of REMS are being bought and paid
for by those who stand to profit if REMS goes away.

The entire populous of the towns tax paying residents will "profit" if REMS goes away - no more tax money being spent for an organization that can't pay it's own bills.

Vote NO - and there won't be any new taxes, property will be returned to the tax rolls and people will be hired and given good paying jobs, with benefits, at no cost to the taxpayers of the town unless they use the service.  That's PROFIT. Jackwagon.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

The constant harping that someone has to own property in the town to have an opinion -- just shows the
elitist mentality of the anti-REMS crowd and the Nattering Nayboobs of Negativity.  

Feel free to have an opinion, but it is also important for those of us that will ultimately pay for the taxing district to qualify your opinions.  The fact that you have no skin in the game pretty much invalidates your pro-taxing district position.  When your a$$ hits the ground with a coronary, you expect to get a free(or soft billed) ride to the hospital without contributing a nickel to support it.

Real principled stanc DVOR

Quoted from gadfly

Trust me ND knew what she was doing when she introduced and supported that resolution...and it wasn't to express support for an
unnecessary tax.

Of course she did, she's a registered Conservative, she can't stray too far away, she had to throw them a bone.

Quoted from CICERO

Of course she did, she's a registered Conservative, she can't stray too far away, she had to throw them a bone.

Oh no...they're not getting a bone either.  

Quoted from CICERO

Feel free to have an opinion, but it is also important for those of us that will ultimately pay for the taxing district to qualify your opinions.  The fact that you have no skin in the game pretty much invalidates your pro-taxing district position.  When your a$$ hits the ground with a coronary, you expect to get a free(or soft billed) ride to the hospital without contributing a nickel to support it.

Real principled stanc DVOR

The fact is that you don't know what you are talking about -- a person doesn't have to have their name on
the deed to be helping to pay the taxes.    So quite frankly .. you and MC and the others who keep making
your nasty little comments can just kiss my a**.

And as far as paying for an ambulance or anything else .. I have always paid for what I have.

and NOTHING you can say invalidates my position ... because EVERY American citizen has a Constitutional
right to free speech ... and you, MC, and the other elitist totalitarians on this website will NEVER take away
my Constitutional rights

Quoted from 78

Avon,

I think that you may be mistaken.  For the sake of accuracy,

whitepages.com shows Mrs. Wroblewski's address as:

1052  MCKINLEY AVE  
ROTTERDAM NY 12303-3276

Public records to which I have access indicate that she and Leon S. Wroblewski, Jr. are the owners of the property
at that address.

If correct, she and her husband will each have a vote in the creation of the tax district.  Looks like she may
have other family in the town also.

http://www.whitepages.com/dir/12303/wroblewski

Brad:

             I believe that you are correct and I am wrong.  The following is the current tax information for the address you provided.
422800 - Rotterdam 59.15-7-4.11  Wrobelwski Dorothy B 1052 McKinley Ave
The spelling of the last name is slightly different from the incorrect spelling used in the Gazette article which is why she did not come up in the property search.  Thank you for pointing this out and allowing me to correct this on the forum!   AVON

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

and NOTHING you can say invalidates my position ... because EVERY American citizen has a Constitutional
right to free speech ... and you, MC, and the other elitist totalitarians on this website will NEVER take away
my Constitutional rights

It invalidates your opinion in the forum of public debate.  You are persuading nobody, because you have NO SKIN IN THE GAME.  Nobody is taking away you right to free speech.  As a matter of fact, I encourage you to exercise your Constitutional rights, because this is TOO easy. Every time you support a taxing district that you don't have to pay for, your argument immediately becomes irrelevant and laughable.

Isn't that what the American Revolution was fought for, keeping hucksters like you from spending other peoples money?  Must be nice to be a freeloader.

DV you say every American citizen has Constitutional rights so why then do you and your kind keep trying to take away my Constitutional rights. You are trying to force me to pay a tax that I don't want or need to fund something that shouldn't have to be funded against my will.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

  My guess is that the most vocal critics of REMS are being bought and paid
for by those who stand to profit if REMS goes away.

It's not that I stand to profit, it's less money that will be extorted from me.  As I said, I would gladly pay for REMS services if I need them.  I pay health insurance premiums that cover ambulance rides.  As a matter of fact, while I was on vacation out of state, a family emergency required me to use the local private ambulance service in the resort area I was in..  And I was billed the balance my insurance didn't cover, and I paid it.  THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICE.

I don't think anybody's "anti-REMS", I think people are anti-mismanaged not-for-profit REMS.  Get your house in order and run a business.

Quoted from Shadow

DV you say every American citizen has Constitutional rights so why then do you and your kind keep trying to take away my Constitutional rights. You are trying to force me to pay a tax that I don't want or need to fund something that shouldn't have to be funded against my will.

You don't have a Constitutional right to NOT pay a tax that has been legally levied.   If the ambulance
district is approved by the voters and the Town Board then passes the necessary resolutions to levy the
tax it will be a legally levied tax.

I have never tried to take away anyone's Constitutional Rights  ... including by the way .. the Right To Bear
Arms .. I am 1000% supporter of the 2nd Amendment.

So your ludicrous attempts at character assassination and outright distortions of my views are all in vain.

The government has the right to levy taxes for basic services like protection of the country, provide necessary infrastructure, and to provide necessary services not some stupid tax that nobody needs just to force people to pay more taxes and create more government control over the population.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

So your ludicrous attempts at character assassination and outright distortions of my views are all in vain.

You are being ludicrous by thinking that voicing opinions in opposition is a character assassination. Take some advise and get over yourself. You are attempting to make something out of nothing,

As far as this taxing district....I don't think it would be good for direction for rotterdamians. Especially the way 'rotterdam turns'. IMHO of course.

Quoted from Shadow

The government has the right to levy taxes for basic services like protection of the country, provide necessary infrastructure, and to provide necessary services not some stupid tax that nobody needs just to force people to pay more taxes and create more government control over the population.

I think you need to restudy basic civics ... taxes can be used for all kinds of services.   And it doesn't matter
if YOU think it is stupid .. as long as the tax is approved by a legal authoritity.

So go back and find a real point to argue your position -- the whining and stamping your feet just because
you think it is stupid is not a viable argument.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

You don't have a Constitutional right to NOT pay a tax that has been legally levied.   If the ambulance
district is approved by the voters and the Town Board then passes the necessary resolutions to levy the
tax it will be a legally levied tax.

I have never tried to take away anyone's Constitutional Rights  ... including by the way .. the Right To Bear
Arms .. I am 1000% supporter of the 2nd Amendment.

So your ludicrous attempts at character assassination and outright distortions of my views are all in vain.

So you should be against the process, since the homebound and our service men and women aren't given fair representation in this process.  If you believe in the Constitution and democracy, then you must be against this referendum.  By supporting this referendum the way it is currently set up, you support "taxation without representation"...Correct?  Elected representatives can't exclude people from a vote can they?  What was that American Revolutionary War fought over?  Who is our supervisor - King "George III" DelGallo?

wear do the city council members stand on this ishew

dont know wear they live

do any have lawn signs