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The solution for the league could rest with an agreement among the three neighboring towns of western Schenectady County. Rotterdam Supervisor Steve Tommasone said he’s contacted officials from both Princetown and Duanesburg about working together to seek a shared park that could also be used for the Little League.
    “It’s my hope that the three of us can work together for a park in the western part of the county that can help us all,” he said.


here we go again....watch the sewers come in over on the west end of town...it is east vs. west.....

they all eat at the same trough.....truck stop? sewers? mclaines? little league field? rotterdam park? strip club?......classic

if you want a raise--let the developers line your pockets--oops, did I say that out loud???


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Okay, can someone answer this riddle for me?

What does the Little League have to do with the Metroplex, Ray Gillen and economic development?


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Okay, can someone answer this riddle for me?

What does the Little League have to do with the Metroplex, Ray Gillen and economic development?



the elephant in the room???


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Well, I guess this can fall under the Metroplex.  In fact, ANYTHING can fall under the Metroplex.

Check this out.  This is the "Who we are" on the Metroplex page.

http://www.schenectadymetroplex.org/ContentManager/index.cfm?Step=Display&ContentID=44

The Schenectady Metroplex Development Authority
was established in 1998 to enhance the long-term economic vitality and
quality of life  in Schenectady County.


So, tell me what one thing going on through the entire county wouldn't fall under the quality of life part of this.

Tell you what, where's the Metroplex funds for cleaning up things like the Marotta Dump out in Rotterdam Junction?  That's a quality of life issue, isn't it?  I'm sure there's plenty of quality of life things that the Metroplex hasn't looked at.


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Quality is only what is deemed important in someones eyes.....

The 'county' sees the city as important now and will build it up for all those who lack 'quality of life', who lack education,dont know/care about the issues, dont/cant care to vote and are on county benefits(for whatever reasons)---the county legislature(and NYS) is after all a Democrat/socialist project....in doing all this, the city will become unaffordable and those folks they were out to increase the quality of  life for, will be forced to move out---out to where you ask? well the 'burbs' surrounding the city of course.........

So Rotterdam, Princetown, Duanesburg better hurry and build that 'shared' park and make it the optimum use of land and quality.......

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Ray Gillen, the county commissioner for economic development and planning, said the property is suitable for three fields, but not optimal for the Rotterdam Little League's purposes. He said county officials still haven't made a final determination on the land.
"It's functional but its not optimal," he said of the property Wednesday.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I guess that my thought for the Metroplex would first be economic development for the purpose of bringing in more jobs hence a stronger tax base which in turn would give some tax relief to it's residents.

I guess they see it that the Bethesda House, even though it is a not for profit organization is a quality of life issue. And it must be so important for quality of life that they are pursuing eminent domain for it's new location.

The same I guess would apply to the Rotterdam Little League. Since these projects are not economic development in my estimation. Obviously the Rotterdam Little League does need a field, but I don't consider it a Metroplex operation since it is not an economic development issue.
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Kids' baseball chief cries foul
Little League president says politics is hampering search for ball field site


By PAUL NELSON, Staff writer
First published: Thursday, January 31, 2008

ROTTERDAM -- Rotterdam Little League President Robert Caprara is frustrated by the politics he says is hampering plans to find a permanent home for his young players.
"My wish is that people keep politics out of Little League and look at the welfare of kids," Caprara said.
     
He said a Schenectady County proposal to build three fields on 9 acres on Guilderland Avenue and West Ghents Road fizzled because the land does not meet the league's needs.
Questions had also been raised about whether construction of ball fields on the property would imperil wetlands.
County Planning Commissioner Ray Gillen said the county did a due diligence review on questions about wetlands on the property and had the Army Corps of Engineers review their detailed assessment. Consultants later determined three ball fields could fit on the property.
But league officials later decided that number wouldn't meet their needs, Caprara said.
Gillen said a deal is not necessarily dead and the county is still looking at other lands that might better suit the league.
"We're still evaluating and still deciding on whether to go forward on that site," he said.
Republicans in the Democratic-led County Legislature had backed a plan to build on an alternate site in the town when the legislature in late 2006 decided to back the creation of ball fields at Guilderland Avenue and Ghents Road. At the time, Republicans said wetlands on the site could complicate construction.
"This has been a 14-month wild goose chase," Legislator Joseph Suhrada, R-Rotterdam, said recently.
The county has an option to buy the property for $260,000.
Caprara says he opposed the town's idea of having Little League teams from Princetown and Duanesburg play on the same fields as the Rotterdam players.
Town Supervisor Steve Tommasone said he wants to find a sizable piece of land where area residents could enjoy assorted activities, ranging from a family picnic to organized sports.
"We need to look for 25 to 30 acres for the foreseeable future," he said.
Caprara praised businessman Timothy Larned for letting the league continue to play its games on its current site on 16 acres on Princetown Road that Larned hopes to someday sell for development.
Around 365 boys, ages 5 to 12, play in the Rotterdam league.
"This is a political thing and it's unfortunate that 400 kids are suffering because adults can't work," Caprara said. "We are just looking for a central location where we can play ball."
Nelson can be reached at 454-5347 or by e-mail at pnelson@timesunion.com.
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"This is a political thing and it's unfortunate that 400 kids are suffering because adults can't work," Caprara said. "We are just looking for a central location where we can play ball."


How about forgetting about the MFRH at the old Curry Road Shopping Plaza and putting it in there?


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"This has been a 14-month wild goose chase,"


And the kids suffer.

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Caprara says he opposed the town's idea of having Little League teams from Princetown and Duanesburg play on the same fields as the Rotterdam players.


The local government in Duanesburg does not have any authority over or anything to do with the Little League in town.  They use our two town parks for practice and have their own fields they play on.  I know they have worked very hard on the fields themselves. They take their own time to improve the fields and their own equipment to keep it in good playing order.  We do what we can to accomodate their practice schedule, but other than that they are a self maintaining group requiring no support from the local government.  By my estimate there are atleast a couple of hundred kids in Little League out here.  I agree with Mr. Caprara in that to combine could be problematic for all.  Off the bat...(teehee, no pun intended?) We can barely afford to maintain the parks we have another one or four would be out of the question.  The parents in Duanesburg would probably not enjoy the prospect of driving down to Rotterdam or even Princetown for the kids to play.  Nor those from Rotterdam out to D'burg. Unless I hear the cries of the residents in town to jump on this bandwagon some how I really think they will have to count Duanesburg out.

Sounds like everyone had better start playing nice and figure something out before they wear out the welcome of Mr. Larned
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The local government in Duanesburg does not have any authority over or anything to do with the Little League in town.  They use our two town parks for practice and have their own fields they play on.

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We do what we can to accomodate their practice schedule, but other than that they are a self maintaining group requiring no support from the local government
Well this is the way I though ALL Little Leagues were to function. How do they become so political?

And I do give the residents in the town of Duanesburg credit for supporting their league. It amazes me that with the population in Duanesburg as compared to Rotterdam, that Duanesburg can pull it off with no government funding and yet Rotterdam with all of the residents and businesses, they yet still look for handouts from the taxpayers.

I think that the Rotterdam folks should venture over to Duanesburg and see how it's done!


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It's because the bigger the group and the bigger you are to a big city, the more the people expect handouts to be given.


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That mind thought seems kinda backwards to me!


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It does to many people.  Just not any of the Dems.  They want things handed to them that they think they're not paying for (at least at full price).  They'll take anything they can get...as long as someone else is paying for it.


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I'm sure the group knew that Mr.Larnard's welcome would be worn out eventually.....it's kind of like "Failure to Launch".....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Of course Larned's welcome would come to an end eventually. But isn't that just like Rotterdamians? Short sighted and no planning ahead! Typical and always in a crisis mode. They just put out fires.

Well I don't think that the taxpayer should have to foot the bill for the league's lack of planning and making provisions for the future for THE KIDS, as they so liberally put it! If they were so concerned about THE KIDS, they should have started planning years ago. Ya know....FOR THE KIDS!!


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