OH!,,,,but the park 'protects' the kids from those sex offenders......I wonder if there will be yellow circles drawn all over the place......I dont think sex offenders carry maps,,,,maybe the county will provide them for them......
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The town does contribute money to a number of organizations in the town and the little league is one of them. The league will have to do some fund raising on it's own as the town does not contribute anywhere near what's needed to build 3 to 4 ball fields, concession stand, fencing for the fields, parking lot, sewer hook-ups for the bathrooms. It's going to take a bunch of money b4 the fields will be built. What the county should have done is not spend so much money on the land so that they could have given the league some money for development of the ball park.
Ya see Shadow, the county will come out looking like the 'good guy' for purchasing the land and the town board majority (reps in this case), will come out looking like the 'bad guy' for not fullfilling the rest. the dems really just took a financial mess and threw it on the reps lap!
And that, folks, is exactly what this was done for. Ya see, the county dems, were just trying to stick it to the town reps!!! And I even question the concervatives since Randy Pasquarella was a part of the dems big 'surprise'!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
The town does contribute money to a number of organizations in the town and the little league is one of them. The league will have to do some fund raising on it's own as the town does not contribute anywhere near what's needed to build 3 to 4 ball fields, concession stand, fencing for the fields, parking lot, sewer hook-ups for the bathrooms. It's going to take a bunch of money b4 the fields will be built. What the county should have done is not spend so much money on the land so that they could have given the league some money for development of the ball park.
This was a classic case of friends, knowing friends of friends of friends etc......that is fine, but dont pander and say "we care, look what we did for you, you dumb stupid poor fool."........shame shame shame....what a sham sham sham.....
Take away the 'e' for everyone in the word shame and we have a sham........
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Well, here's what I say about this little league park. Yes the town should have this organization. I am clearly not against it.
First of all, through out this country, land is donated for little league organizations. Businesses donate to support it. Kids have fund raisers to support it.(bake sales, tag sales, raffles, 50/50's, dinners donated at local fire stations..etc..) Residents donate to support it. And that is the way it should be. The minute the 'government' at any level starts to dole money out to support and single out one sporting league, it changes the landscape of it's meaning. It changes from a small town bunch of kids, getting together for fun and healthy competition to a political arena for...you guessed it....the politicians. Little league then loses it's 'flavor' and sense of 'why' this league/sport exists.
Politics can be played out on the backs of our kids, IF we let them. And the county legislature took that first BIG step in that direction. Shame on them.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
ROTTERDAM Little League wins a reprieve Planning efforts continue for new fields BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter
Like many adults involved with Rotterdam’s Little League, Randy Pascarella wasn’t looking forward to Halloween this year. It would have marked the end of the use of the traditional fields off Princetown Road. But with just a week remaining before the deadline to move all the league’s property from the former Rotterdam Republican Club and vacate the fields, they caught a real break. Local developer Timothy Larned told league officials they could use the fields for another year. The reprieve will allow the league to carry on, while Schenectady County and the Army Corps of Engineers work through the planning for new fields off Guilderland Road. It could be some time. The county plan to build new fields and facilities on the south side of town will take at least into next year. This prompted fears among many Little League volunteers that they would be faced with the nearly impossible task of crafting a spring season with half the fields they now have. “It would have been a scheduling nightmare,” Pascarella said. “It would have been a real struggle.” “Basically, he saved the day,” Pascarella said of Larned. “We have a game there this weekend.” Rotterdam’s Little League boasts 450 players in five divisions and is one of the largest youth baseball programs in Schenectady County. Calls to Larned were not returned Wednesday. Ever since Larned purchased the former Republican Club property in 2002, league officials have braced for a future without the four fields there. Plans for a Wal-Mart on the property in 2005 and an attorney’s opinion about the liability of leasing the fields in 2006 prompted the league to push their search for new baseball diamonds. Nearly a year ago, county legislators agreed to purchase 8.9 acres off Guilderland Avenue for $260,000, provided there was enough developable land to build three ball fields. In June, the Army Corps determined there were slightly more wetlands than the county outlined, but indicated the property had space for the fields. Plans for the property include a 150-spot parking lot, lighted fields, locker rooms, restrooms and snack bars. League officials estimated the cost of the improvements at $1 million, which the organization hopes to get through fundraising, private sources and government grants. “As of right now it’s still moving forward,” Pascarella said. Within the coming weeks, county legislators are planning a meeting with representatives from the league to finish specifications. At this point, the only thing slowing progress is getting permits through the Army Corps, said Ray Gillen, the county commissioner for economic development and planning. “It’s a time-consuming process,” he said. “The corps takes a very careful look at these things.” Gillen said the extension granted by Larned is welcome news because actual construction on the fields is still at least six months away. He said the county will wait for final approvals before even purchasing the land; their option on the land extends through January.
Plans for the property include a 150-spot parking lot,
Where will the water run off to in the wetlands?
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lighted fields,
more electricity that the league is not now using, making increased cost to the league and therefore the parents of the Little Leaguers
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locker rooms, restrooms and
Vandalism waiting to happen, and how have we dealt for so many years without lockers for the Little League. Oh, that's right, everybody had to bring everything with them. What happens when the cops are called over due to someone breaking into or vandalizing the lockers?
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snack bars.
At least they can bring some of the money back again...from the parents.
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League officials estimated the cost of the improvements at $1 million, which the organization hopes to get through fundraising, private sources and government grants.
Good points Bk. But this is the biggest joke the county legislatures have played on Rotterdam. And let us give a big 'thank you' to Judy 'turncoat' Dagostino. A quarter of a million dollars to purchase 8.9 acres of primarily wetlands. Boy they must have seen her coming, huh? The egg on her face should be frying from the embarassemnt!
And to add insult to injury, the league needs ONE MILLION DOLLARS! Gotta have a lot of bake sales and car washes to fester up that amout! But then perhaps they are banking on the taxpayers footing the bill for this ill concieved notion...OH BUT WAIT...the taxpayers ARE going to foot the bill. Ray Gillen the county commissioner for economic development and planning is also involved in this fiasco. But could someone answer this question...since when does the Metroplex, and economic development agency start doling out money to support a little league fields? Economic development is just that...to support businesses and jobs to raise the economic standard in a community. To help the tax base. Clearly this little league field will be an EXPENSE that will bring nothing economically back to the community. So again, no return on our taxdollar.
If you are going to form a little league or any community sporting event, one best make sure they have the private support from the residents and the businesses and the league officials with the bake sales and car washes before you committ the taxpayers to do it. Don't place the burden on the taxpayers when for years Mr. Pascarella knew the Larned property wouldn't be there forever. Where was the future vision? The long term plan? And now the taxpayers have to foot the bill? Nonsense. And I know, we will hear the bleeding hearts saying, 'what about the poor children?' Well lets lose that ooey gooey feeling and let the responsibility fall where it should. On the adults who were running the show that made no provisions for the future.
Come on folks, we need infrustructure, better public safety, maintianed roads and good jobs or people will be moving out of the area and there won't be the little boys and little girls left who want to play sports. Scrap the taxpayer funded little league and let it float on it's own, like they all use to! Let's get down to real serioius issues...okay?
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
“It’s a time-consuming process,” he said. “The corps takes a very careful look at these things.” Gillen said the extension granted by Larned is welcome news because actual construction on the fields is still at least six months away. He said the county will wait for final approvals before even purchasing the land; their option on the land extends through January.
It's good to hear that the sale of the land has some contingencies attached to it. This may be an option that was already explored, but maybe Mr. Larned would sell the parcel that the league is using now to them.
It's good to hear that the sale of the land has some contingencies attached to it. This may be an option that was already explored, but maybe Mr. Larned would sell the parcel that the league is using now to them.
He's going to want Wal-Mart type money, especially if he sells it to the town. Simply because of how he feels that he got raked over the coals with the whole sale to Wal-Mart and things, he's going to want an extremely high price if he sells to the town.
Plan to build Little League fields in Rotterdam scuttled Wednesday, January 23, 2008 By Justin Mason (Contact) Gazette Reporter
ROTTERDAM — County officials are no longer interested in buying property off Guilderland Avenue where they intended to build Little League fields, one of the landowners confirmed Wednesday. Angelo Caschera, one of five owners of the 8.9 acres, said the deal fell through sometime last month after county officials determined they couldn't build some of the fields to regulation size. County legislators authorized a deal to purchase the land for $260,000, provided they could build at least three fields. Cashera said the group is still considering their options after waiting more than a year for the county to finish studies on the property. For now, he said the plan is to revive its plan to build two soccer fields on the property. "We don't know yet," he said Wednesday. "We're still up in the air." Preliminary reports by the Army Corps of Engineers in June showed enough land was available for four playing fields plus other improvements. Previously, county officials indicated their purchase agreement with the five owners would expire this month. Ray Gillen, the county commissioner for economic development and planning, said the property is suitable for three fields, but not optimal for the Rotterdam Little League's purposes. He said county officials still haven't made a final determination on the land. "It's functional but its not optimal," he said of the property Wednesday.
ROTTERDAM Little League fields deal off Owners looking at other options BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter
Schenectady County officials are no longer interested in buying property off Guilderland Avenue where they intended to build Little League fields, one of the landowners said Wednesday. Angelo Caschera, one of five owners of the 8.9 acres, said the deal fell through last month after county officials determined they couldn’t build some of the fields to regulation size. The county Legislature authorized purchase of the land for $260,000, provided at least three fields could be built. Caschera said the group is still considering options after waiting more than a year for the county to finish studies. For now, he said, the idea is to revive a plan to build two soccer fields. “We don’t know yet,” he said Wednesday. “We’re still up in the air.” Preliminary reports by the Army Corps of Engineers in June showed enough land was available for four playing fi elds plus other improvements. Previously, county officials indicated their purchase agreement with the five owners would expire this month. Ray Gillen, the county commissioner for economic development and planning, said the property is suitable for three fields, but not optimal for the Rotterdam Little League’s purposes. He said county officials still haven’t made a final determination. “It’s functional, but its not optimal,” he said Wednesday. League President Robert Caprara said continuing to plan at the Guilderland Avenue site didn’t make sense because the property wouldn’t have changed the organization’s need for field space. He said the league alerted the county it wasn’t interested in the property last month. “It didn’t really make much sense to go further because we’d still be looking for land,” he said. Ever since local developer Timothy Larned purchased the former Republican Club property in 2002, league officials have braced for a future without the four fields there. Plans for a Wal-Mart on the property in 2005 and an attorney’s opinion about the liability of leasing the fields in 2006 prompted the league to push their search for new baseball diamonds. SET FOR THIS YEAR Larned granted the league a reprieve in October, when he agreed to allow play through the 2008 season on the Republican Club land. His property has four baseball diamonds and represents about half of the league’s field space, which has others available in the town. Gillen said part of the apprehension over using the Guilderland Avenue property is on the part of league officials, who are anticipating a major investment in the new fields. Plans include nearly $1 million worth of improvements, including a 150-spot parking lot, lighted fields, locker rooms, restrooms and a snack bar, league officials said last summer. “These guys would rather do it right, and we want to do it right as well,” Gillen said. The solution for the league could rest with an agreement among the three neighboring towns of western Schenectady County. Rotterdam Supervisor Steve Tommasone said he’s contacted officials from both Princetown and Duanesburg about working together to seek a shared park that could also be used for the Little League. “It’s my hope that the three of us can work together for a park in the western part of the county that can help us all,” he said. Caprara said such an idea could be difficult to achieve because of the district guidelines of Little League. But if the right proposal comes along, he said there are ways to try to make it work. “The good thing about Little League is that they do grant waivers,” he said.
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